fandomsecrets | [ SECRET POST #723 ]

⌈ Secret Post #723 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Maybe you should recognize that people are juding the fandom for its reaction rather than for the fics before you fly off the handle?

But you have to also put that into context as to what they're reacting to. Yeah, I agree that the idiots, like the OP of 153, need to be smacked. And that if anyone responds to people saying "I don't like this series because it puts me off" or "these fics offend me" with OMG RAGE DEFENSIVENESS, that's ridiculous. But a lot of the time, these secrets seem to come from nowhere. Basically what's happened so far:

*People make secrets about how everyone who likes Hetalia is creepy, the very existance of the series is horrible, and the entire fanbase should be judged because of the existance of some bad shit in the fandom.
*People in the fandom tell them to shut the hell up because it's ridiculous and offensive.
*They do it again.
*People in the fandom reiterate, fuck, SHUT UP, we got it the FIRST TIME, let us have fun, you don't have to like the series but don't JUDGE ALL OF US.
*Non-fans then make secrets like this saying "OMG HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE HOW PEOPLE COULD BE OFFENDED BY THESE HORRIBLE FICS HOW CAN YOU MOCK THE PEOPLE WHO DISLIKE YOUR SERIES JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE IT????"

Yeah, anyone who mocks or looks down on other people for not liking the series, for not thinking it's funny, for not enjoying the fandom or anything like that? Is being ridiculous and I can see that being a turn-off. But as I said, I don't think I saw more than one person responding that way, and you get your occasional idiots like 153 here.

Implying that the entire fandom was mocking and circle-jerking and raging about things just because oh, boo-hoo, other people are ~offended~ by these things is ridiculous because that never happened. I saw 99% of people saying "yeah, most of us don't like that shit either" and getting replies such as "DOESN'T MATTER YOU NEED TO POLICE YOUR FANDOM BETTER" or "but it's an anonymous kink meme so even if you say that, THERE'S A CHANCE YOU'RE LYING SO I CAN'T TRUST ANYONE YOU ALL ARE SICK."

I should be getting less pissy about this, I know. I'm not even that deep in the series or the fandom. But people I know are awesome, good people are, and I got sick of seeing the entire fandom slammed for daring to like the series and having one or two bad apples in it a long time ago. The fact that people don't seem to get that "reacting badly because we're all being spit on" is not the same as "reacting badly because people are offended by offensive fics" and presenting it as, again, the entire fandom doing something that I saw practically no one doing is just as maddening as the people saying everyone in the fandom is sick for whatever dumb reason.

I'm sorry to tl;dr. And I get your point. But I'm really starting to form the opinion that fandom is allowed to start flying off the handle if 90% of the secrets that show up here about us say that we all suck and should be ashamed of ourselves, and I really think this entire secret was a straw-man argument -- yeah, people like that exist, there is proof of them right in this post, but what they're claiming never actually happened and I'm just. Getting really, really sick of it. I wince whenever I see a Hetalia secret now because I'm almost positive it's going to be full of mocking and hate and sweeping generalizations.

Yes, you're definitely proof that Hetalia is full of level-headed fans that aren't affected by criticism at all.

Did you miss the threads back a few days ago where people were patting each other on the back, going "Oh, can you believe I made jokes about colonization? SOMEONE CALL THE PC POLICE! THAT'S SIMPLY NOT ALLOWED, IT'S OFFENSIVE! LOLOLOL!" that went on for pages?

That behavior does exist, Hetalia fans did do that, and if you didn't see it, that's your problem.

And then there's 153, and the secret a few days ago asking for Turkey/Armenia rape. You're a real classy fandom alright.

if you didn't see it, that's your problem

Please tell me you're not that stupid.

Oh snap. Some people in a fandom you're not in said something you don't find kosher. I'm sure this is a heartbreaking experience for you, and clearly everyone in that fandom should be judged.

There are no problems with this logic whatsoever.

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