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[ SECRET POST #726 ]

⌈ Secret Post #726 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Young Dracula]

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[Sugar Rush, Harry Potter]

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[Dr. Drew Pinsky (Loveline/Celeb Rehab)]

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[Eli Stone]

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[Harry Potter, Remus/Sirius]

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[Inkheart]

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[Jaime Reyes/Blue Beetle]

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[Transformers (the Movie), Star Trek]

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[Strike Witches]

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[Moral Orel]

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[American Juniors]

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[Silent Hill]

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[Zelda, Twilight Princess]

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[Kuroshitsuji]

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["There she is!!"]

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[Devil Summoner - Raidou Kuzunoha vs The Soulless Army]

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[Andrew Sisters, Chronicles of Narnia ]

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[Lillian Randolph, The Great Gildersleeve]

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[Gareth David-Lloyd]

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[Jonas Brothers/Nick Jonas]

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 117 secrets from Secret Submission Post #103.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 3 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 - too big ], [ 1 2 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

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101 I think everyone (at least everyone who's into anime) went through at least a brief OMG JAPAN IS SO COOL phase. I'm just glad mine didn't last that long.

108 That's creepy as fuck.

126 I just can't concieve someone thinking that's the best anime they've ever seen. It's so OMG KAWAII ANIMU

131 OH MY GOD PEOPLE HAVE DREAMS AND AMBITIONS HOW FUCKING AMUSING
What the fuck are you doing with your life? Apparently not much if you have the time to laugh at other people for trying to create something.

141 WTF, men watch shows that are just as stupid. First of all, a lot of men watch those shows. Just because they're aimed at women doesn't mean men don't ever watch them. Secondly, have you ever seen the shows on television that are aimed at men? MOST DARING CAR CHASES, COPS, Ultimate Fighting, WWF (you'd think these were all shows little boys watched, but no, grown men actually watch them). Finally, watching shitty mindless shows on television is no indication of your actual intelligence.

151 You should probably read it first, anyway, so you'll be familiar with the series before the movie comes out. Forget the overzealous "old" fans (most of them are relatively new to the series as well, but don't want to admit it)

You summed that up really well, actually.
And besides, ANTM is kind of cool. Well, it was that time that James St. James showed up as a guest, anyway.

JAMES ST JAMES WAS ON ANTM????? HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS?!?!?!

oh god i can only imagine what he has to say about tyra banks when the cameras arent rolling....that man's humor is so woefully overlooked.

The secret never mentions ANTM. Tyra Banks has a talk show and the secret uses the logo of that, not ANTM.

Yes, but those shows aren't aimed at men. And the majority of those watching them are women.

And I'm not talking about actual intelligence. I'm talking about the perceptions of women created by shows that are aimed at and successful with a female audience. They seem to indicate that we only care about vapid, shallow things. That looks are what's most important. That gossip and drama is what interests us above most else.

The difference between men watching dumb shows and women watching them is that men don't have to prove anything. The gender imbalance is still tipped to benefit them. Also, Cops and wrestling are aimed at men, but they aren't a reflection of the average man, whereas Tyra and talk shows are supposed to be about 'real women.'

I realize my secret was probably too broad, that there are a lot of holes in my logic, but I'm speaking of the visceral feelings I have when I see those shows. My worries. I'm sorry if that offended people, I'm sure you're not the only one, but that's why it's a secret.

Again, what kind of perception of men am I supposed to gleam from the shows aimed at men? Gender stereotypes run both ways. Trust me, the men that I know are just as offended by the stereotypes reflected in programming aimed at them.

The anon below summed up my feelings pretty succinctly. Women are not judged by the same standards that men are. Male stereotypes are awful too, but it's easier for them to overcome them when it comes to jobs, pay, respect, etc...

Women are not judged by the same standards that men are.

No shit, Sherlock. But to blame that on some women's tv habits and not the sexism that has existed for millenia is utterly ludicrous.

Who says I'm blaming it on that? Yes, those TV shows are symptom not a cause, but they can still make me sad and piss me off, can't they?

So, what do you mean by your secret?

but they can still make me sad and piss me off, can't they?

But that's not what they're doing. They making you make huge assumptions about how women are perceived. That's going a bit past "sad and pissed off".

What I mean is that I worry television is just another influence on the sexism of this country (America). I worry that it's exacerbating what already exists in a much subtler way.

Well, I do find that people of both genders often expect women to be what those television shows depict on a smaller scale. Perhaps this is just my surroundings speaking.

This was kind of my point. We're talking about television viewing, not sexism in general.

Here's a novel idea. If someone uses the shows that some women choose to watch (nevermind that a] some men do too and b] whether or not they are stupid is subjective) justification to see women as unequal to men, they have underlying prejudices.

And it's a whole lot better to, oh gosh I don't know, work on eliminating those root prejudices instead of blaming women and bemoaning what some women choose to watch.

But, women shouldn't have to prove anything either. So let the women who like watching the Lifetime network do so, and the ones who like watching explosions do so. The blame should lie with the network execs, not with people's individual tastes.

That's a very good point, and I find myself wishing I'd worded my secret a bit differently.

Also, Cops and wrestling are aimed at men, but they aren't a reflection of the average man, whereas Tyra and talk shows are supposed to be about 'real women.'

Wow, that's wonderfully hypocritical of you.

there are a lot of holes in my logic

For there to be holes in your logic, you have to have logic in the first place. What you have is a broad assumptions based on your own prejudices.

How is that hypocritical? Criminals aren't average. Pro-wrestlers aren't average. Those shows don't even pretend to be reflections of average men.

Talk shows profess to be about real women. While I don't think they actually are, it angers me that they claim to be, and I worry that some will believe they actually are.

Quit pretending that women are judged on the same standards as men.

I don't think anyone is saying that. I think the difference of opinion lies in the fact that the OP is choosing to blame the women who like women's-oriented series rather than the higher-ups who create and perpetuate the stereotypes. If we women start blaming other women, and making them feel guilty, what will that accomplish? Bashing others' personal tastes isn't very helpful.

This was what made me react to begin with. DAMN THOSE WOMEN FOR WATCHING UNINTELLIGENT SHOWS AND MAKING THE REST OF US LOOK BAD

Hey, WWF isn't that stupid to watch. ;_;

But seriously, most of TV is bad, regardless of what gender demographic.

I agree. I don't watch tv that much.

I am doing nothing with my life, thanks for asking.

That must be why you are such a caustic bitch

No doubt.

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