[ SECRET POST #5059 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5059 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

It's an American movie, for Pete's sake

[(Anonymous)]

So?

[(Anonymous)]

American exceptionalism is fine and good if it's for Americans! Duh! /s

[(Anonymous)]

If you complain loudly every time an American expresses an opinion on non-American things, you can't also say that it's American exceptionalism for American movies to be made with a primarily American audience in mind.

Or, I guess you can, but it's bullshit.

[(Anonymous)]

So, having something in it that appeals primarily to American audiences is not really a critique of it.

People on here are ridiculous. If an American expresses any opinion whatsoever on something from outside of America, it's cultural imperialism. But the reverse isn't true at all. Like, if an American criticized a foreign film for having something in it that appealed to sensibilities in the nation of origin, that would absolutely be called out as very bad and wrong and American imperialism.

[(Anonymous)]

No mate, what you're doing right now is cultural imperialism. Coming from a different background, I found that scene hokey as fuck. That's an opinion. Based on a scene in a film that was made to sell to international audiences, with characters and concepts that are not just American.

But you seem to think me not liking this random scene is wholesale criticism and a reason to get enraged because... what? Because I didn't have the same reaction to a scene as you and said so? Fucks sake.

I'm not even going to bother coming back to this thread. I can see where this is going. A ton of butthurt Americans complaining. Fucking tedious.

[(Anonymous)]

But you seem to think me not liking this random scene is wholesale criticism and a reason to get enraged because... what? Because I didn't have the same reaction to a scene as you and said so? Fucks sake.

No, my problem is that I think there's a really ridiculous double standard. If the attitude is going to be that what Americans think about non-American media doesn't matter at all, and Americans shouldn't share their opinions on it, and Americans having opinions on non-American media is cultural imperialism, that's a cogent point of view. And that is absolutely what the attitude is on here. But it has to go both ways. Either it matters how someone from a culture different from the intended audience reacts, or it doesn't.

I'm not even going to bother coming back to this thread. I can see where this is going. A ton of butthurt Americans complaining. Fucking tedious.

Flounce away.

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks for saying this. The scene made me rage for days.

That's cultural appropriation but since Norse culture is considered white nobody said anything. If Cap had "borrowed" something that was that important to T'Challa's culture, I'm sure somebody would have said something. And it's exactly what they did with Norse culture here. Mjolnir is part of a religion; it's supposed to be sacred and not something to play with for Americans who don't ever understand its meaning!

[(Anonymous)]

Oh my fucking god Thor as a comic book has been running for decades. Another character holding the fictional version of Mjolnir in a franchise that has been running for ten years--including several movies MORE disrespectful of actual Norse mythology (hell THIS movie made a giant joke of Thor himself)--like, are you serious?

(And I'm saying this as a pagan)

[(Anonymous)]

"This particular cultural appropriation has been running for decades, so it's fine!"

I'm saying this as a Norwegian pagan. Shut the fuck up.

[(Anonymous)]

*slow eyeroll*

If Cap had "borrowed" something that was that important to T'Challa's culture, I'm sure somebody would have said something.

You mean like an entire Vibranium shield?

[(Anonymous)]

I am cracking up. You're right and you should say it.

[(Anonymous)]

omg

[(Anonymous)]

The entirety of the "mythology" behind the Marvel Thor is so different and missed up that he's basically an original character.

[(Anonymous)]

+1000

It's also a thing in the comics where there's Thor son of Odin and Thor, the person that Mjolnir chooses because they're "worthy" or "Thor son of Odin is off finding himself again" or "TsoO is not in the picture because Marvel editorial wrote him out of the picture in their last fucking marketing stunt." That's how we can have Beta-Ray Bill and Jane Foster Thor, and there might be a few other Thors who were not Sons of Odin I'm missing because I think Marvel editorial (including Stan Lee at times) are some of the worst people in the business my involvement is mostly throwing peanuts from the stands these days. The same is true of the Valkyrie BTW.

tl;dr: Yes, the hammer picking other people has been a thing for decades.

[(Anonymous)]

So it's for us, dude

[(Anonymous)]

Does that mean Harry Potter is just for us Brits then?

[(Anonymous)]

People constantly complain about Americanisms in HP fandom lmao

[(Anonymous)]

da, but somehow I watched it in a cinema some... fifteen thousand kilometres from America... which would suggest it was to some degree meant for *other* audiences too