[ SECRET POST #5059 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5059 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Tabaqui - not logged in.

I guess I'm not getting what it is you want. How is A/B/O 'obligatory pseudo!het'? It's two individuals having penetrative sex (usually). That's not 'pseudo!het', that's just sex.

I have read any number of A/B/O where the person 'in heat' (A or O) doesn't fuck 'the nearest person' - they either have a partner, or they use toys, or they suppress it (a big thing in the A/B/O world), and just have random sex with whoever. And I have read 'omega fucks alpha' fic.

I only read m/m, so I can't help you re: recs, but there *is* a/a and o/o sex out there in the A/B/O world.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

Omegas can get pregnant. Let's start there, because this is a huge part of a/b/o. You can't get away from it, because so much omegaverse fiction focuses on heats, and well, heats are estrus. Even if the omega is on birth control, that has to be established in-text.

And all of that is uncomfortably het, especially for a female reader. If that's a feature, not a bug, then whatever, but you can't say that you'd find any of this in traditional m/m erotica.

[(Anonymous)]

How is it "het"? Mpreg = specifically cis men getting pregnant by magic or weird science or whatever, has been a common trope in fanfic for DECADES. A/B/O is just another flavor of worldbuilding to support it. The whole point of mpreg is having MEN get pregnant. (For me, I always saw it as - wouldn't reproduction be better if MEN had to do carry the parasite and do the terrifying painful body horror thing to make it happen? It's just a fantasy.) Reproduction doesn't determine gender, so a pregnant man is still a man.

[(Anonymous)]

Penetrative sex skewing so heavily toward het tropes that the omegas for all intents and purposes have a vagina instead of an asshole. What's not clicking.

[(Anonymous)]

Many of the omegaverse fics I've read literally refer to being alpha/beta/omega divide as their "gender". You can't really pretend it isn't about gender, when the fic writers write that into the text itself.

[(Anonymous)]

SA

I'm AYRT, btw. And don't get me wrong, I don't think there's anything wrong with exploring gender norms in a fantasy setting, with a sub-caste of men in place of women. It simply doesn't appeal to me to see these gender norms played out. And sure, there's a tiny handful of a/a and o/o fics, but they're an extreme minority, usually in fandoms that I'm not interested in.

[(Anonymous)]

SA x2

Adding to this: I guess the reason it's so frustrating to em is because I would love all of those physical aspects of A/B/O, if they weren't accompanied by a social hierarchy that's hard to distinguish from that in Handmaid's Tale, or real world sexism. I would love the heats, I would love the knotting, I would love the D/s, I would even tolerate mpreg, but it's the idea that someone is born into a society with a biologically pre-determined "womanly" role and it's constantly reminded to us that they are forced into this box, that's just extremely triggering to me. I read m/m to escape that gender-based oppression in sex. To imagine a situation where a partner is subbing because they just personally happen to like that for no reason in particular, not because it's expected of people with their biology to like that.

[(Anonymous)]

God yes, all of this.