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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-11-27 06:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #5075 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5075 ⌋

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02. [SPOILERS for The Dark Pictures Anthology]



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03. [SPOILERS for Supernatural]



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04. [SPOILERS for My Hero Academia]



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05. [SPOILERS for Supernatural]



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06. [WARNING for discussion of irl sexual assault]



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07. [WARNING for discussion of rape]























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[personal profile] fscom 2020-11-27 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
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(Anonymous) 2020-11-27 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
What are your least favorite tropes?

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(Anonymous) 2020-11-27 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
It Was All a Dream/only existed in one person's head!! It's just lazy storytelling.

Also, the more time passes since my mom's death, the less patience I have for "main character's presumed dead parent/s.o./etc. shows up alive years later." I feel like it was everywhere in the media I consumed 5 or 10 years ago, and while it could be well done, most of the time there's not enough emotional fallout for my liking? If I found out now my mom had secretly been alive all these years, I'd be furious. Most of the stuff I see the trope in has the MC be like, "OH! You're alive?! Well, back to business as usual, I guess."

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With the second one, all I can think of is the infamous Mortal Kombat movie worst line reading of all time, "Mother! You're alive!" "Too bad you... will die"

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Oh, I hate "It was all a dream"! More like "It was all a waste of time".

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Slap slap kiss kiss. Explain to me why mutual dislike means love again? It's stupid.

I hate characters going into the past or the future to undo plot points. It feels like a huge waste of time.

Save the princess can be okay with me if the characters get equal treatment, like how Mulder and Scully took it in turn. But if it's always the same character getting rescued, it's super tired.

Hate hate hate when an untested newbie character charges stupidly into a dangerous situation against a more seasoned character's advice to prove that they can do the dangerous stuff, only for them to be hurt or cause a huge problem for every other character.

Really dislike the "nerd with a heart of gold" who loves the popular or pretty character. I hate characters comedic comedically mooning over another character. It feels intrusive and pathetic at the same time.

I'm also not big on the novice who instantly excels at everything thing.

Usually NOT a fan of the "cool tech girl" or the "adorkable guy."

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I detest it when you have a heterosexual couple where the woman is canonically more intelligent and competent than the man but somehow it's always him that saves the fecking day, or solves the crime, or proves he's the best leader, etc. There's like this faux submissive role shows end up shoving these characters into, where she ends up falling into line and always bowing to his judgment or being wrong every time.

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[personal profile] philstar22 2020-11-28 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Happily ever after with babies ever after, the woman becomes primarily a mother, and suddenly characters that were unique before are shoved into gender tropes to fit the stereotypical idea of what "happily ever after" hast to mean.

Dubcon to romance where one partner has to pressure the other into the romance/sex but then were supposed to buy them as a perfect couple and totally ignore the coercion that took place before or worse yet, actually find the coercion romantic.

Redemption arcs that aren't believable and are shortchanged, meaning we go from evil to good quickly and without understanding why the character suddenly changed. A believable redemption arc is one of my favorite tropes, but when it doesn't work it is awful.

Anti-heroes for the most part, especially ones where we're supposed to buy that they are really heroic and really great people when 90% of what they do is awful, they just happen to do this one good thing, often for the wrong reasons. Especially ones who are bullies and/or generally treat other people awfully. Your one heroic act doesn't make up for all the people you have hurt along the way and I'm just not going to root for this type of character.

It was all a dream is lazy writing most of the time. Also, making the Wizard of Oz all a dream ruined one of my favorite childhood books, and yet people think of the movie rather than the book when they hear Wizard of Oz. I'll forever be bitter about that.

"Selfish hero" storylines that are really about other characters getting annoyed at heroes for daring to actually take care of themselves and not spend every single moment being heroic. Heroes are allowed to take breaks. They are allowed to take care of themselves. Most of the time they are normal people in at least some way, even if they have superpowers. Don't expect them to be heroic all the time if you can't be.

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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2020-11-28 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Redemption arcs that attempt to turn the redeemee into something whiter than white rather than acknowledge that they're still going to be flawed, and potentially still have the capacity for being immoral/evil.

Don't get me wrong, I also hate redemption arcs where it feels like the character in question has to mentally flog themselves raw over every choice they make. But although moral codes and personalities can develop, they're not going to forget what they were before and I don't think media explores it enough how hard it is to be a new person. Usually because of redemption equals death. Speaking of...

OMG I HATE redemption equals death now. It's a crutch by this point. Can't be arsed to put any effort into actually redeeming a villain? Just kill them after they did only one nice moral action. At this stage I wish that trope would be the thing that would die more so than any villain.
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Idiot Ball and all the tropes where supposedly intelligent characters catch a case of the stupids because the plot requires it and not because it makes sense for even a smart person to make the occasional mistake.

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"Getting the Girl" in the first place, but it especially irks me when it's "Fat/Ugly Guy Gets the (Conventionally Beautiful) Girl" because it is in absolutely no way in balance with "Fat/Ugly Girl Gets the (Conventionally Beautiful) Guy".

I know why. I know women are supposed to be pretty no matter what. But as a girl who's genuinely, objectively, genetically ugly in ways that only plastic surgery could save, it sure stings like fuck to have that so constantly reaffirmed.

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(Anonymous) 2020-11-28 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
(Cozy werewolf anon)

some folks have already mentioned some of mine. But I'll add some others.

"Love at First Sight." No. Lazy. Ugh. Do the work to build a relationship. Instant attraction, fine. Instant love. No go. Especially if it involves a confession of something traumatic from their past to a near stranger. Check please!

Along with "Surprise first KISS!" Over done and does not bode well for future communication.

"Pair the Spares/Main Boy gets the Trophy Girl:" -gestures at Harry Potter- For that example, I'm going to say it was because she wrote the epilogue first and then wrote the rest of the books, so it didn't really make much sense. But come on, do the work. (Ginny should have been much more important. The books as SET UP Draco would have gotten a redemption arc and then ended up with Hermione, not Ron. Ron needed a plot arc. I am a writer, these are my opinions. Please don't try to come at me. It's easy to pick something apart once it's all written. JK's a pantser. It shows.)

Forced romantic relationships in action movies in general. It's usually so cringe.

"I'm going to give you a day to think about it." Okay... so the villain can prepare then? Um. They can kill everyone. Just. I'm over it. Get it over with and attack. (Brought to you by Ep. 13 of the Mandalorian)

"Only One Girl:" This shows up in werewolf stuff a lot. There is only one female werewolf. Or in a 5 man band, there is ONE girl to represent all women. Same for an ensemble show. It's toxic and detrimental to representation of there are many types of women. I may not agree with Joss' version of feminism, but hey, at least he puts in multiple women. I try to lean really hard into having a 50/50 ratio of men and women in Heathens.

"The Sexual Assault Backstory:" "I'm a strong female character because I was sexually assaulted." Brought to you by Chris, the bisexual ONLY female team member on S.W.A.T. They revealed her backstory and I quit the show. And this shows up a LOT in Fantasy, and particularly in Urban Fantasy. It grates.

"Woman must sacrifice herself to *insert plot point here.*" Biggest example, Black Widow in the MCU. You know for once, let's just shove the guy off the cliff.

"The Body Double Gambit" Someone happens to be a twin/look close to someone else, and one is bad and one is good, so the bad guy takes the good guy's place and NO ONE notices. Really? I cry bull.

"The Hero Can't Kill the Villain or be dragged down to his level." Well, I feel bad for all those mooks then. Their lives mean nothing. Either your good guy is really a good guy, or they're just an all right guy.

I probably could go on. "The only way to sneak into a place as a woman is to be sexy." I give Oceans 8 a pass b/c there it at least made sense. Most times, it doesn't. (I also hate bad marketing but um.. yeah. That is another rant.)

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I dislike good girl/bad guy most of the time, I'm not saying it can't be done in a way I'll like, but 9/10 I cannot comprehend why the girl/lady is into a dude who does nothing but verbally belittle/humiliate her/otherwise make her life a literal living hell. But then I don't understand why genuinely nice male LI's are considered 'boring' or 'dull'. For me personally there's nothing dull about a sweet and loving man who wants to take care of you. (I also don't usually like this trope if the genders are flipped or if it's gay, I just like my couples to actually LIKE each other as people). Similarly: 'they hate each other, but it's true love!' also grates on me.

In relation to the above: I mainly despise the 'bad boy' trope because 9/10 he's just a twat with a sob-story to somehow justify his shitty, shitty behavior towards everyone around him(and somehow paint him as desirable???). Again: there's bound to be a version out there I'll like, but I don't most of the time.

The man is carefree and childish/the woman is stern and No Nonsense. It's not the most hateful trope to me ever, but I'm not much of a fan of how it paints the lady as a 2nd mother to the perpetually immature male lead.

Insta-love. Instant interest/affection/attraction? Absolutely fine, but please actually give me relationship development before they're declaring their love for one another after 2 episodes/2 mins.

Last min gays with no build-up. I know we can't always be that picky about LGBT content, but I am seriously over gay ships happening in the last 2 secs of a show/movie with no prior development(slow-burns are absolutely fine) and acting like that's anything notable anymore. Give me gay content the entire show or fuck off, don't slap it on at the end and act like you're shitting out gold or doing me a favor.

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Weekend Plans?

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2020-11-27 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
What is everyone doing this weekend?

I am at my sister's house. Tonight we are watching Parasite and eating Mexican. Tomorrow we are doing a small dinner for my niece's second birthday. Sunday I will be driving home.

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I am eating leftover thanksgiving food and chilling out and trying not to worry about anything outside of those 2 things

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Ouch, Parasite is rough. Mexican food is the best food in my opinion haha

I'm at my brother's house. Nice time except for my niece holding me hostage and my Dad getting in my ear about some fucking conservative social media thing he believes I should be on. I don't even like social media at all. Why I, a liberal, would enjoy some conservative social media crap, that's beyond me. Sorry for the rant. It just really upsets me tbh

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[personal profile] philstar22 2020-11-28 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Resting, taking it easy. Cold is starting to go away, so I hope it will be gone by Sunday.

Going to listen to more Christmas music on Youtube and watch some Buffy season 6.

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Your weekend plans sound fun! Hope you have a lovely time.

I'm going to finish my last final tomorrow morning and then have a socially distant coffee with my best friend.

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I had planned to sleep a lot yesterday and possibly today, but I think after the work week AND the fun stuff I did Monday through Wednesday, I don't know how to relax so I've spent the last two days climbing around on my roof to put up lights, cleaning pet litterboxes I hadn't had a chance to get to for a bit, doing laundry, playing video games, and editing fic (the last two admittedly in bed).

I have no idea what the second half of my four day weekend will hold except that now I have the second and third-to-last chapters of my giant multichapter thing edited, so I just have the one last chapter to edit and then I can post it and it will be finished. I may do that tonight. So I'm pretty sure that the second half of the weekend will involve being really depressed that I don't have anything to write/an excuse to read these characters anymore, and trying to find something else to write with them.

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[personal profile] ibbity 2020-11-28 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
I will be working all weekend, and in between getting started on the term papers that are due on Dec 18 that I haven't started writing yet. I know what I'm writing about and have sources, I just haven't had time or energy to start writing due to my job increasing our hours plus all the other assignments I've had to do. Including finding sources and writing my proposal for my master's paper, which hopefully I'll be writing and defending next semester
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[personal profile] malurette 2020-11-28 08:42 am (UTC)(link)
Doing the dishes, mainly. Blegh, my backload of dirty dishes is tremendous.

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(Anonymous) 2020-11-28 11:49 am (UTC)(link)
my friend told me they have to put down one of their cats :( so spending the weekend sad bc i wasn't able to give one last kiss and pet. :(

my original plan was cleaning up, do some online banking and start an new cross-stitch pattern

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Games thread!

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