fandomsecrets | [ SECRET POST #730 ]

⌈ Secret Post #730 ⌋

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Notes:

Stuff to do, better early than late, right (:

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103 Allow my dearest Liet to voice my infallible opinion.

(http://tinypic.com)

154 I know who drew that picture, so if you're going to be an obnoxious moron, could you not at least use official art instead of something that someone has put a lot of hard work into?

126. I may not be Lithuanian, but I wholeheartedly agree with you on that. I personally dislike abusive relationships in fandom, and as a result I have always wondered at when people scream about how cute Russia is in, for example, 'Lithuania's Out Sourcing Epilogue' when the point of it is how he's worked Lithuania into exhaustion. SO DON'T FEEL ALONE, ANON.

130 Jackpot. /love

So I just remembered why I love you so much. ♥

All in a day's work, kochanie~ ♥

Didn't someone ostensibly put a lot of hard work into the official art as well? Granted, that "someone" is a lot less likely to see this secret than your "someone," but, well... that was a funny way of putting it.

If you want to be pedantic about it, then yes. However, Hidekaz is making money from his creation, whereas fanartists do it purely out of love (unless, of course they have been commissioned). Making use of the given media is a lot more acceptable, in my opinion, than using someone's contribution to a fandom that involved time and effort for no profit beyond praise to scrawl overdone, petty secrets on.

Use official art, you're making a statement about a series, but in using a person's fanart, I find that it goes beyond that and into devaluing their work.

... oh, WOW. XD

Also, this came up in a GIS and I couldn't tell it was fanart ... because all of Hetalia freaking looks like fanart.

Also also, I had some of my art used for something similar once. I got over it.

Good for you.

I don't see anything wrong with using fanart as opposed to original art, and people do it on F!S every day. The original characters are already copyrighted, and it's not like anyone's trying to pass the art off as their own, so what's the problem?

I'm not about to start a quibble with you or anything, but since when is the old adage 'Everyone else does it' a good excuse?

I'm talking about feelings here. I'm assuming that Hidekaz doesn't give a shit about what people on F!S have to say, but given that the art was done not only by a fanartist, but a Western one at that, I think it's just not on. What does copyright have to do anything? It's rude and thoughtless, plain and simple.

given that the art was done not only by a fanartist, but a Western one at that

Western artists are overly sensitive about their art? Or is it just more acceptable to be 'rude and thoughtless' to Japanese people? Please clarify.

I think she means that a Western fanartist either can be asked for permission or stated disapproval for their fanarts being used in a commonly understood language.

I appreciate that you're trying to defend your point by being overly picky about anything that I'm saying, but my point was made in the context of who would be reading F!S. Now, since I included the point of the fanartist being a Western one in the same sentence of 'what people on F!S have to say', I (obviously wrongly) assumed that anyone reading that sentence would come to the conclusion that I was referring to the fact that a Western artist would be more affected by it, but since I apparently didn't clarify it in a satisfactory way, please allow me to clarify it for you now.

I'm assuming that Hidekaz doesn't give a shit about what people on F!S have to say, but given that the art was done not only by a fanartist, but a Western one at that who is extremely likely to be reading F!S, unlike, say, a Japanese fanartist and who will see their work used in a negative way, I think it's just not on.

But, since you're so eager to discuss this, then no, actually. I don't agree with using fanart in general without permission from the artist themselves.

I think using fanart for icons or something like F!S is fine, it's when you go off saying that the art is yours to begin with that it becomes a problem. It's not like the characters belong to the fanartist to begin with, so you could argue that what the fanartist is doing is equally unethical.

According to F!S if someone uses fanart for their secret, the owner of the fanart has the right to request that the secret be taken down and F!S will honour their request

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