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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-12-05 03:20 pm

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(Anonymous) 2020-12-05 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, that puts you as someone who likes it more than a lot of Star Trek fans
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[personal profile] kribban 2020-12-05 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey now, season 3 is TNG-levels of Trek.

The Captain reports to the hot admiral. The admiral assigns him a mission. The Discovery executes that mission. Episode ends. That's Trek enough for me.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-05 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Nice!

Ngl, all my knowledge comes from 40-something male YouTubers, so it is very very biased.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-06 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
They're idiots. I have to keep reminding them that "Spock's Brain" and "Threshold" exist to get them to shut up.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-06 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
That may be why I'm not loving this season so much, actually. (FTR I loved original Trek. I just also enjoyed the 13-ep novel form that Discovery s1 and 2 had.)

(Anonymous) 2020-12-05 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I like Discovery, but then I love TOS (the OG movie series) and no other Trek series so I'm not sure how much of a Trekkie I am either.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-05 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Most of the vitriol against Discovery is from older male fans who think it's "too progressive" with a lead black female character, a married gay couple in the main cast, etc. They don't seem to realise that this is what Star Trek has been all along, but this time they've been left behind.

(There are people who just don't like it, which is fine, but they're not particularly loud about it because they don't take it as a personal insult.)

AYRT

(Anonymous) 2020-12-06 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
What I've seen is issues with the more action focus vs. what TNG and the original series were like

(Anonymous) 2020-12-05 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
(Cozy Werewolf Anon)

I haven't seen Discovery, so i can't really comment on if it is better.

I feel like the Mandolorian is suffering from the two creators wanting to shoehorn everything they've done before into it. And it was sort of pitched as being for casual fans so you didn't have to watch 7, 8, or more seasons of animated stuff? Then "Oh, Ashoka, and Bo-Katan and Dark Saber!" They're introducing all these GRAND plots w/ only 8 episodes per season and then having "Filler" like the ice planet episode. It's weird.

And you'd think Dinn would be a tad more subtle. He was more subtle in Season One. So him just going "have you seen people like me?" Every show is very bad writing. They had the perfect story hook setup with the bounty hunting for him to collect rumors.

I just hope the rumors aren't true and there aren't 101 spin offs in the work. Introduce it in one show, finish it in one show. Please.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2020-12-05 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah, I like Mando, but I'm not in it for the Star Wars, I'm in it for a terrible amoral guardian to become a slightly less terrible father, so I can understand being a star wars fans and finding it flat.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-05 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I like Mando by I do agree that it's quite bare bones. It very much feels like a deliberate throwback to 90s television, spliced together with 2020 visuals and some 2020 narrative sensibilities as well. Which I find kind of cool and enjoyable. But I constantly find myself thinking, 90s TV could get away with this style of story-telling (lots of filler and a Caper Of The Week format) because shows has 20+ episodes per season. Much as I like Mando, it feels frustratingly insubstantial to me with it's 90s-inspired story-telling and 8 episode seasons.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-05 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Mando is okay, to the point that it got me back to Star Wars after being disappointed with the Sequels (I was hoping that this would be a big improvement over the Prequels because those films had midicholrians and bad acting, save for Ewan's Obi-Wan, while the Sequels have good acting but three different movies that does not marry up to each other well, a disservice to the original trilogy characters who deserved better and poorly executed new characters). I'm not too big on STD because it went from a show that talks about becoming a better person and questioning the morality of people in different worlds to a show that includes lots of cursing, gore (I really got uncomfortable with Picard for this reason), and dumb moments ("this is the power of math, people!").

(Anonymous) 2020-12-06 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
I'm the exact opposite. I've loved Star Trek forever, and I like Star Wars well enough, but it was always Trek for me. This season, I'm connecting with Mando more. Season two has that first trilogy vibe and I'm eating it up!! I will say for Discovery that I thought the writing for the 1st season was the best. The 2nd season was pure nostalgia with Spock. Season three is just falling flat with me. New characters that are horrid actors aren't helping. Anyway, not to go off on a tangent.
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[personal profile] 4thofeleven 2020-12-06 07:53 am (UTC)(link)
It's funny how everyone agrees that the quality of Discovery has varied wildly from season to season, but nobody seems to agree which was the good season and which was the bad.
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[personal profile] kribban 2020-12-06 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
My friend loved season one because it was so dark and twisted, and hated season two. I hated season one for that exact reason, and loved season two.

I am fairly certain the mood whiplash is because season one was, if not written, then at least influenced, by Hannibal-creator Bryan Fuller who then left. (There is literal cannibalism in season one, so I think my theory is plausible.)

(Anonymous) 2020-12-07 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
Point.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-06 12:25 pm (UTC)(link)
As far as I'm concerned, Star Trek has always been better suited for a series format, but doesn't have the flashiness(?) to make for good movies (although some of the movies are far better than any of the Star Wars movies), while Star Wars has always been better suited for a self-contained movie [trilogy] format but doesn't have the foundation or depth to sustain a long-term TV-style series. They both have their pros and their cons, their strengths and their flaws, but they are entirely different storytelling and world-building strategies, so really it doesn't make sense that they are constantly compared as if you can only truly like one or the other.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-08 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
People who say that about the Mandalorian are missing the point. It’s intentionally written so you can watch an episode and not feel like you’re missing tons of backstory. There’s articles out there where they have talked about how they’re trying to recreate the feel of older shows where every episode is contained into itself and it doesn’t need to have plot points spread across multiple episodes. You definitely don’t have to enjoy the format but to say it’s lazy writing is a serious misinterpretation.

Personally, I find the show immensely refreshing purely because of the format. Different strokes, clearly.