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fandomsecrets2009-01-08 04:54 pm
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[ SECRET POST #734 ]
⌈ Secret Post #734 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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[Arwin/"The Suite Life of Zack and Cody"]
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Notes:
Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 082 secrets from Secret Submission Post #105.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 - repeat ], [ 1 - personal attack ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
Re: in which I talktalktalk ._.
(Anonymous) 2009-01-09 09:57 am (UTC)(link)It is easy to feel attacked, that's true, but I think one of the paradoxes of Hetalia fandom is that when someone brings up the fact that there is something in Hetalia fandom that they find offensive (in a way, that they feel "attacked" by an offensive portrayal of some kind), Hetalia fans (at least here) then view that as an attack against them personally. There's this trend to respond to "I feel attacked by Hetalia because [blank]" with "WELL I FEEL ATTACKED BECAUSE YOU ARE OFFENDED AND YOU ARE MAKING ME FEEL BAD" which isn't the same thing. On one hand, you have someone offended on behalf of their country/nationality/race/gender, and on the other, you have someone offended because they feel like they should be ashamed of their fandom. These two things are definitely not equivalent, and I think this dichotomy is contributing to the vitriol between Hetaliahaters and Hetaliafen. I don't think either side really understands where the other is coming from, so it's easier to slip into wankbait type attacks from both sides. I also think privilege plays a part in this, but that might be going off on a tangent...
I think South African anon definitely had a point, and her rage at the treatment of UK in the fandom given what it did to her and other countries was totally justified, but I think she expressed it a little poorly. The way I read her secret, it seems like she went from something that annoyed her to blind rage by the end of it (thus the allcaps FUCK YOU when it kind of started calmly), and she probably just listed some trends in Hetalia (exaggerated for the sake of hyperbole I assume) that irritated her the most as she got angrier. At least, that's how I interpreted it. It's hard to say whether she was in fandom or not though, since she never showed up in the comments (although given some of the responses, maybe it was better off that she never did) ...I guess we may never know.
The thing is, I feel that South African anon can't be an isolated case... surely there are other people out there in Hetalia fandom from smaller countries (like the Lithuania anon for example) that feel this way as well, but feel they can't object without being mocked or told they're stupid as a result, as the comments here from other anons/fen have shown.