[ SECRET POST #5110 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5110 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


01.
[The Crown]



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02.
[Outside Xbox]


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03. [SPOILERS for Wonder Woman 1984]
[WARNING for discussion of rape]



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04. [WARNING for discussion of incest]



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05. [WARNING for discussion of domestic abuse/suicide]

[MDZS/The Untamed]


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06. [WARNING for discussion of underage/incest]


















Notes:

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 (marked Mandalorian spoilers) - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[philstar22]

But she's a woman, so self control Should be second nature to her, right? Anyway, women are just expected to be able to control themselves, and when they don't it is their fault.

I still can't get over this being directed by and starring a woman. Even if it wasn't written by a woman, the director surely had some say and could have done something if she wanted to. Either she didn't notice or didn't care.

[(Anonymous)]

WTF are you talking about? It would be just as much of a moral event horizon if a man with super powers provoked someone who assaulted them in a previous scene into going after them again so they could beat them to death and then kick the body around for a few minutes. Jesus.

[philstar22]

With new powers he'd never used before and had no idea how to control? Uh, no it wouldn't. From what I can tell from the storyline based on a movie I haven't seen, these were WOnder Woman's powers she had been given thanks to the wish stone or whatever it is called. They weren't powers meant for her. She had no idea how to control them. She was attacked, acted on instinct, attacked him to protect herself, and couldn't control her new powers. That's not an event horizon.

[(Anonymous)]

By the time she goads the man (who was in the wrong both times for drunkenly attempting sexual harassment) she KNOWS she has superstrength and is no longer 'normal'. She didn't just push him away unexpectedly and go oh shit I just yeeted him across the road!!

She goads him into harassing her the second time, and then basically proceeds to stomp him gleefully into the pavement.

Just because she is in possession of powers she did not have before does not mean she should have gone from someone who feeds the homeless to someone who stomps a guys head in just because she got superstrength.

[philstar22]

It sounds to me like she got in over her head. It doesn't sound like she made the right choices. It sounds like she was tempted by having power she never had in more ways than one. But I'm still not seeing event horizon. I'm still seeing someone overwhelmed by power she can't control. I'm still seeing a vulnerable woman with a man she knows is a rapist, believing she's doing a good thing by getting this man off the streets and therefore protecting the homeless she feeds (maybe she sees herself as acting like the Wonder Woman she now shares powers with in this), and yes probably enjoying it a bit much, but not event horizon. Not a villain for this one act. Someone who needs and would respond well to help, actually.

[(Anonymous)]

I know you haven't seen the movie, so you didn't watch the scene you're commenting on, but you are making a lot of incorrect assumptions about what led up to the scene and how it played out. In particular, she absolutely doesn't see herself as acting like Wonder Woman. She has no idea that Wonder Woman exists. She's certainly not protecting the homeless man she brings food to from this skeeve who preys exclusively on women. If anything, the homeless man will be blamed for murdering him once the police show up. What she is doing is indulging in a revenge fantasy to the extent of goading someone into attacking her so that she can beat him to death.

[philstar22]

Okay, then, I stand corrected. But I'm still not sure I see this as an event horizon for the creation of a villain in a superhero movie given the guy was a rapist who had already tried to rape her, and she's still a woman who has been treated badly and has been weak in the past and who has just come into possession of superpowers she has no idea how to use.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

I mean, you should probably watch the movie if you insist on talking about it this much. If you don’t want to that’s fine, but your comments sound ridiculous because none of the details are accurate.

[philstar22]

You are right. I was basing it on someone else's comments and my reaction to that. And the fact that I dislike the idea of a plotline where a woman becomes a villain through revenga against her rapist in general. But yes, I should watch it and decide based on that how I feel.

[(Anonymous)]

da

It isn't treated as a moral event horizon in the movie either, honestly. It's treated as a "ohshit, something's wrong here" moment, because her aggression isn't at all in keeping with her normal behavior, both in the way she continues kicking the shit out of the grabby asshole once he's very clearly too injured to do anything, and in the way she lashes out at her homeless friend when he tries to talk her down, but she could still go either way at that point. The scene that establishes her as a villain doesn't come until later.

[(Anonymous)]

Jenkins had full creative control this time around.
And she preceded to fire/not hire all but one of the WW 2017 writers (including the man who has had a good run of wonder woman comics under his belt and understood her character).

Jenkins and 2 other people wrote this mess of film.

So it's all on her. Which makes it so infuriating because she chose all of this. This was her story and choices.

Oh boy

[(Anonymous)]

I just looked at the writers from the first movie compared to this one.

Wow. Just WOW.

[(Anonymous)]

da

Oh no. I'm really not looking forward to her Star Wars movie now.