[ SECRET POST #5114 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5114 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, but you then have to live in Missouri.

[(Anonymous)]

Which is why I didn't use Arkansas as an example.

[(Anonymous)]

Not an.American, but a quick google of Missouri and it looks fricking gorgeous.

[(Anonymous)]

its a segregated racist shithole. But I guess its fine if youre white.

[(Anonymous)]

"segregated and racist" is an accurate description of most places in America

It is true that Missouri is aggressively conservative and Trump-y but that's not the same thing

[(Anonymous)]

Forgot about Ferguson already, I see. So fucking tired of you crackers.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm really sorry but I don't see the point you're trying to make, anon! Could you try and explain it a little more?

[(Anonymous)]

Seeing as they used a racist slur, I think their point is they're just a moron.

[(Anonymous)]

You're the kind of person who thinks goy is a slur, aren't you.

[(Anonymous)]

Never heard the word goy before, no idea what it means. Pretty sure they didn't mean cracker in any way than pejoratively, and as it's, well, a racial slur by definition, it seems pretty QED.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

I feel like saying that something is true "by defintion" is often not a very good argument, since definitions are basically arbitrary and conventional.

In this case, it is literally true that "cracker" is an insult based on racial identity, so in that sense, it is literally correct to say that "cracker" is a racial slur. But talking about racial slurs brings to mind a lot of weight and baggage that is not included in the literal definition of a racial slur. We have certain moral and political judgments that we associate with the term racial slur, stemming ultimately from the fact that racial slurs are used as linguistic tools to entrench and police racial boundaries in society and systems of prejudice and oppression. Those kinds of judgments are essential to the argument that's being made - "The anon who said 'cracker' is using a racial slur; people who use racial slurs are morons; therefore, anon is a moron."

But those moral and societal judgments don't actually necessarily apply in the case of "cracker", because even though it is literally a racial slur, it is not used to entrench or police systems of racial prejudice and oppression in the same way as other racial slurs. (I guess you could make the argument that "cracker" as a phrase for specifically poor whites is classist, but that's clearly not the argument at hand here). So in fact, even though it's literally true that "cracker" is a racial slur, the implied argument doesn't really make sense.

(Of course, that doesn't mean that the anon who originally said "cracker" is right, either. They're just wrong for other reasons - if they're saying that Missouri is uniquely racist because of Ferguson, they've apparently forgotten about good ol' liberal Minneapolis and George Floyd)

[(Anonymous)]

'In this case, it is literally true that "cracker" is an insult based on racial identity, so in that sense, it is literally correct to say that "cracker" is a racial slur. '

Stopped reading here because you proved my point for me. It cuts two ways.

[(Anonymous)]

Parts of it are lovely, yes. Forested foothills and rivers and plains. Couple of small cities. Rolling fields and cow pastures. Mostly still get four seasons. Clear skies. Throw in the cheap living and it’s not bad at all... if, like other anon said, you just ignore the illiterate racist gun-toting neighbors.

[(Anonymous)]

So, nice place to live if you're white.

[(Anonymous)]

The fact that they're racist and "illiterate" makes it very likely that a large percentage of them are also homophobic and sexist, too. So no, you can be white and still have a really bad time and/or feel distinctly unsafe in communities full of such people.

[(Anonymous)]

Wow. Well I guess if you're a hermit then it's okay.