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[ SECRET POST #738 ]
⌈ Secret Post #738 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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I do that when I'm last on the bandwagon in my clique, and it's back
fired the same way sometimes. If feel your self inflicted pain.
147- Ok, I'm pretty out spoken that I agree about the use of art for icons BUT a lot of artist sinking LOTS of money into making art. Like...lots (Most of my fanart is done with markers that cost over $1000 all together.) I do think they are better if they sell prints or something, but with the exception of using tegaki or MS Paint, you need to spend money to make most art. And usually a lot (Computer art? A tablet, and a nice enough computer to run PS on...cause let's not kid ourselves nobody buys PS. Traditional? If nothing else a scanner to uploaded it, and most people aren't doing their art with college rule notebook paper and a ball point pen...) It's an expensive hobby.
182- And if you aren't OMGBFF's you obviously hate them and wish them horrible deaths.
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(Anonymous) 2009-01-13 01:25 am (UTC)(link)Mechanical Pencil: $2
Pretty pictures of people I fangirl: PRICELESS!
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And then I have a pencil sketch which is....eh, pencil sketches don't really toot anyone's horn often, oh hey, I can't share on the internet cause I haven't bought a scanner.
And suddenly it's $150. Plus your $9 bucks.
I'm not saying anyone HAS to donate or that artist should expect it (I sell my art and am flabbergasted when someone tips) but it's also not like this is a cheap hobby, and having the little paypal thing isn't like a BFD. YOu know, SOME pro-artist charge for you to see their gallery, period. I don't agree with that but hey, makes a little pay pal look harmless.
Yeah I CAN doddle with a ball point pen on a napkin at Denny's but really, that NOT what you (or at least most people) want from a fan artist. You have to pay money to get worth while supplies, and yeah...people know the difference, and acting like they don't is simple naivety.
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Let's be honest: the good fanart that usually that is sold? That artist paid for a wacom tablet or used those capcom markers that are expensive.
Seriously. I don't understand this backlash against fanartists lately.
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It's like your making it out that these artists are making BANK profit on these comics, and that's not true.
Some people don't like using used products because it doesn't have a warranty and the like.
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Yes, the $10 we charge is not the cost of making the prints alone for the doujinshi (A 20 page doujinshi, minus original supplies and time and effort comes in at about $4).
It's the cost of the table ($100 bucks usually), the displays, the money we need to get to the con (Often across country, and often paying a bunch out of our pockets anyway even for con's were ONLY working, not playing at, because we keep our prices low enough that we're not ripping people off. We have yet to pay anything from company funds for a con that is even partially for fun, only if we stay at the table all con), the cost of the business cards, etc etc etc,
The price of my makers? Aren't part of what we charge people. Because I use those for my classes and personal art, and we keep business and personal separate.
I looked at your comic. It's cool. It's also black and white, and all online which knocks out so much over head price it's not even funny. I've worked on a comic like that, and yeah I was able to do it REALLY cheap cause I just bought a cheap sketch book and used ball point pens and it worked for THAT. But it also was FAR lower quality, not in style but in the technical aspects. Your art style (Which don't get me wrong, I like a lot) is very flat and simple, and the supplies and methods you use would NOT work for the art I do, which is very heavy in color layering and details (Well, mine not so much the details) Your art would look weird in oils or chalk pastels or what have you (And honestly, you luck out that way. When one artist in our group tries to color that way instead of coming across as clean and simple is comes across as plain and lazy)
You are, in styles, comparing how you grown apples to my orange orchard. I need different tools then you do because I do different things then you do, and my tools end up costing a lot.
I use a thrice hand me down tablet so old you can't see thought the plastic cover anymore with a stylus held together with tape. I was using a hand me down laptop, but had to upgrade because it ran so slow I couldn't use PS on it (Sorry, bottom line doesn't work for art there) and as for scanner, I had to buy a nice one, because the cheap ones just effed up the colors (And yes, I did LOTS of research. Like I said, I don't have money to be wasting on this)
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These are kind of the industry standard to use, and what you'll find most graphic and comic book artist use. Even in your example, you also forgot a tablet, and a computer that runs well enough to USE photoshop. Even at a one time cost, that stuff can set a poor college student out.
No you don't NEED it, a pencil sketch can be a beautiful piece of art, but good art supplies cost what they're worth. Sorry. or example, working with markers, I can't use computer paper (It's far to light a stock, even for my normal drawing and bleeds odd) So if I didn't shell out the money for Bristol I'd be ripping my customers off. Trust me, I'm poor, I work at minimum capacity (That maker collection took me 4+ years to build up, and everyone one of them gets used till they little more then pale streaks.Part of the reason I'm forcing myself to learn photoshop is to cut down on marker prices)
I'm not saying that you don't have an awesome set up for you but you're kidding yourself if you think that art isn't often validly expensive.
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And yes, there are forms of art that don't need them, but if say, you don't you know, USE computers or like the feel that gives to art...your style works for you. It doesn't work for everyone, and really most artist I know even who DO use just computers use at least bristol board for their originals.
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*sob* They are, they are. A small tube (like the size of a travel-size toothpaste tube) of cadmium red can easily go in the $20 range. Ugh, I prolly spent close to $80-90 on oils and these oils were discounted. And they weren't even professional grade, christ.
Oh art classes in college, how you bankrupted me.
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I used Basic Arcylics in my color theroy class. My teacher was like "The Syllabus said not to buy those you know." and I was like "Sucks huh?" (She was cool and just sorta shook her finger at me....but oh man the quality drop huuuurt)
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Count yourself a lucky one XD Seriously, if it works for you, work with it. Like I said above, I checked your art and it's working for you.
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And makes sure to take some pin ups, but also some of your strips, and if you're interested in doing it, several sequential pages (I made a friends drabble into a short doujin)
Also, if you're interested in doing a strip, you should check local papers, and possibly even pitch it to nationwide syndicate...the worst they can say is no.
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Portfolio is easy tho. Pick like...your five best strips, 3 pages of sequential art, 5-10 pin ups, and any tradtional art you can, so you can say "Yes, this is what I draw, but it's not ALL I can draw."
If you print them out, you can get cheap protfolios that are slick and nice at www.dickblick.com (The best brad IMO is like...Ioyta? Or close to that) but like...I jut took around my laptop with a file with just those things to browse through.
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You're ignorance is showing.
If it's so easy anon, go do it. :D
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Breathe, it's ok.