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⌈ Secret Post #5129 ⌋

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I really like how they showed the abortion in GLOW - it was very straight-forward and practical, little stress and definitely no angst.

Try Daredevil, maybe? He has enhanced senses apart from sight because he loses that in an accident at the same time he gains the other powers. When he wakes up in hospital and things are loud and scary he's upset and traumatised, but he gets past it and doesn't think he's crazy at any point (in the comics, the Ben Affleck movie or the Netflix series).

Hey, thanks for doing my secret, Anonymous Secret-Maker. :-)

Not just this fandom or just characters of color, I think. Honestly, over the last 10 years or so fandom has really got shitty about villains and their fans. Must be the obsession with "healthy" ships. I ship characters because they're interesting, not on whether they would have a "healthy" relationship or not!

I look forward to people posting about the Loki series only to encounter finger-wagging about he's an abuser and nobody should like him.

I always think of the abortion plot arc in 'Fast Times at Ridgemont High' which was totally realistic *as well as* totally not pandering to the pro-life/drama llama bullshite.

Um, if I was seeing and hearing things other people weren't, mental issues would be pretty high on my list of possibilities. Physical illness or injury would also be on my list, yes, but if I thought I was hallucinating something, I would definitely be wondering if it was caused by something like schizophrenia.

I keep flip-flopping on how I actually feel about the whole situation.

On the one hand, Trump being gone is great, yay, I don't have to wake up every freaking day wondering what racist, xenophobic, mysogynist, otherwise disgusting, or just plain STUPID thing he is going to do while representing us to the rest of the world to make his moronic bigoted base cheer for him. Biden has his flaws (he was like 3rd to last of the initial pool of candidates I wanted to vote for) but at least he's sensible and not the personification of chaotic evil.

But on the other hand, Trump's moronic bigoted base is still there, they're still insisting the election was stolen, and some of them are willing to commit violence over it. And some of them are in Congress. And I for one am never going to be okay with "unity" that includes actual Nazis and people who tried their best to overthrow democracy in favor of fascism. No unity without accountability, and the problems that CAUSED Trump to get elected are not going to disappear overnight.

But darned if it wasn't great seeing a president actually give an intelligible speech and display empathy and enthusiasm for the country and the process and the people instead of just the power and title. And then go in and get right to work doing things to protect the environment/health/immigrants/etc. instead of intentionally trying to destroy them.

After my work day was done I rolled over and dozed for a couple hours and was more comfortable and relaxed than I remember having been for months, so that's also something. For now I am just going to enjoy it.

And hope that I also get to enjoy the mug shots of the entire Trump family very soon when SDNY nails them for tax fraud and so on.

Ohhhh!

Yeah, fair enough. That is pretty open to interpretation.

Ironically, Matt also has genuine hallucinations

Agreed that I find "they looked at each other once = true love" to be bad romance writing. Happens more often than I'd like!

The book "17 and Gone" by Nova Ren Suma has a subversion of this that might interest you.

It doesn't become apparent until the end that it's a subversion, so hopefully I didn't spoil too much just by mentioning it, but I did because it would be easy to read most of the book and ask "Where's the subversion?!" if you went in expecting one.

That's how I feel about The Untamed! It's not a perfect show, but it was entertaining as hell and really helped me through the ongoing depression plus the stress of the lockdown and pandemic.

He's preaching unity, but at the same time he got right in there and got things done.

I also like that while, yes, he talked about the importance of unity, he also didn't shy away from making it clear that we need to choose facts over lies, and acknowledged the threats of white supremacy and racism, while making it clear that what the rioters attempted a couple weeks ago was not successful and, so long as we work to fight it, will never be successful. He definitely seems well aware that we cannot let what the GOP and these rioters did go unpunished, and I know there's been a lot of talk about how his administration is going to put a lot of focus on tackling the problem of domestic terrorism, and treating things like QAnon as the public threat they are. And it's clear the people who are directly responsible for holding these criminals accountable have his support as well. Part of unity is allowing for the chance to hold the necessary people accountable so that we can properly move on, and he seems to really understand that.

I voted for Warren. Then I voted for Sanders. But I'm glad Biden won. I think he's the right choice for America. And I think he's going to get some of the things done that both Warren and Sanders wanted while also getting more Americans to actually want those things and to understand why they need to happen.

Agreed. We've got some new progressive members of Congress joining us, Bernie's got an important role in the administration, and many of his other appointees seem very forward-thinking and progressive in many ways as well. I think Biden's very open to hearing what they have to say, and I have no doubt they'll talk with him often about the right way to steer this country going forward. Some of the big plans may take a little time and work to get fully going, but I definitely think there's plenty of reason to be excited about the possibilities. Sometimes the most dramatic political change can come from the most unassuming of circumstances and people.

So yeah. I'm pretty much sharing the general sentiments here today. It's just so, SO nice to be able to breathe and relax again, and to sleep a little easier at night, and not have to dread reading the news every day. And to know I don't have to give a single crap what Trump or his family have to say ever again as well...that's just the cherry on top. The only time I want to hear about any of them going forward is if/when they're arrested/on trial/going to jail, and in Trump's case, when the day comes when he passes. Otherwise, they don't deserve a moment more of my attention and time.

I don't envy Biden, Harris, and the Democrats as a whole the very, VERY difficult tasks ahead of them. But I have faith, and I know they're up to the challenge. I wish them the very best in all their efforts going forward.

I think it really depends on the fandom? There are some fandoms where the villains are pretty adored.

I kinda hate cartoon shows with the cheery premises for this reason, but I'm gonna be honest, i would just decide they're all kids, lol.

Speaking as someone, who has experienced delusions before, this isn't really how this works. Delusional people can't rationalize their episodes away, because your sense of logical thinking is one of the first things that's gone during an episode. When I saw and heard things other people didn't, I turned to forums and websites about psychics, witches, and mediums, and told myself that of course other people can't see the same things I do - they're not special like I am.

for me, it's because mental illness is usually defined by negative impact on life, and so if someone's powers are having that kind of negative impact...it doesn't make sense to be relieved that the source is mildly different (if it is. a lot of time the powers are from the same occurrences that trigger mental illness, like physical or mental trauma or genetics). life if i'm seeing ghosts, and it's negatively impacting my life enough that I think something's wrong, I'm not going to be thrilled I am actually just seeing ghosts. it's still negatively impacting my life. obviously there's a difference, but it's not necessarily a helpful one.

i mean, you're going to have a tough time comparing those villains as they both really aren't meant to be more than antagonists ultimately. hannibal is a power fantasy of killing the worst people, and loki is clearly supposed to be beloved. also mcu people had big beef with loki-stans so you're wrong there.

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My thoughts exactly. Like if you're in Asch's conformity experiment and think the plants know better than you do. I'd rationalize it to myself as mental issues too.

hard same, though I've not watched that one. I like that they're complete, for one thing. Not having the threat of the story being stopped at whatever random spot a network decides to abandon it is just one of the perks of the cdramas for me.

But the character has a really bad time afterwards, which can be read as karmic punishment.

Yes, but healthy people don't know that. So if they do experience apparent delusions, their first thought is mental illness, not magic.

ayrt

Okay, but, in this case, they wouldn't actually be delusions, so I don't see why I wouldn't approach it logically. I was replying to tabaqui's question: Would anyone *really*, who wasn't already having mental issues, *immediately* leap to that conclusion? And, yes, I, never having experienced a delusional episode or hallucination or anything like it, would think that mental health issues were a possible cause. And you, having experience, might immediately recognize that whatever was going on wasn't delusions.

I have to say that unless superpowers were known in the universe I was in, they probably wouldn't be on my list. Psychic or medium or something might make my list, at some point, but not before considering a physical or mental issue.

Yes, but the difference (in most people's minds, whether rightly or wrongly) is that superpowers/magic, when explained contextually, has clear parameters, whereas our idea of mental illness is that it can be unpredictable and really keep getting worse until you lose your sense of self. So it's believable that someone with no mental illness would be relieved it's [supernatural plot device], not mental illness.

I'm curious, do you somehow think women should feel ashamed if they are deeply upset by having an abortion?

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