[ SECRET POST #5141 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5141 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

AYRT--okay, as much as I love them, pets=/=people. The balance with domestic animals especially is more towards duty of care than respecting their autonomy.

I make sure my hens don't eat styrofoam even though they love it, because it's bad for them. I had my male dog sterilized because ge would be at lower risk for cancer and live a longer safer life without his balls, poor guy.

When I frighten or cause pain to an animal, I feel bad about it, try to minimize it if I'm doing it on purpose (giving pills or meds that they don't like the taste of, transferring to a carrier to take to the vet, etc) or apologize if I tripped over them or whatever.

And insofar as you can "program" pets (or people!) you do it by treating them well or badly. If you treat them well, they'll hopefully like you; if you treat them poorly, not so much.

The only baby animals I've ever adopted were chickens that would otherwise have been food for someone. I don't eat meat and my longest lived hen was 16 when she died.

The dogs and one cat have been adult strays or in one case a puppy that was going to be put down from shelters, the other cats just showed up and stayed when I treated them well.

(Most) people are capable of more autonomy and conscious choice than most domestic animals, so you have to respect their autonomy more, or if they're babies, give them the education and tools to become autonomous thinkers as adults while also protecting, providing, and caring for them.

The less a person is able to think and care for themselves, the more ethically fraught their situation and the more debate there is about what people who care (or should care) for them owe them to give them good lives, and what constitutes a good life.

Insofar as a person is capable of autonomy without harming others, and provided they're capable of understanding concepts like autonomy and consent, we should respect their rights to act as individuals.

Idk it's 4 am and I'm not sure I'd have the brains or vocab to articulate fully why your position freaks me out even at noon after a good night's sleep, a meal, and coffee.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm aware of it all and none of it has jackshit to do with the supposed immorality of fucking a robot. Prove to me that robots are people and deserve to be programmed with the full autonomy equal to that of a human being. We aren't talking about the morality of fucking animals, you weirdos. Honestly, I think you're intentionally derailing the discussion, because you know I'm right and you have no good argument against my point, so you prefer to attack a strawman instead. I only gave an example with pets to point out that you can genuinely feel the feeling of love towards something and still think you can make decisions for it.