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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-02-14 02:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #5154 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5154 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2021-02-14 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry OP, but Oceans 12 just wasn't very good. That's why it was badly received.

OP

(Anonymous) 2021-02-15 08:17 am (UTC)(link)
I disagree in that I think it's reception was mostly disappointment from wanting a real heist and getting thief politics instead.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2021-02-15 11:27 am (UTC)(link)
Well yeah. But seeing as the whole point of Oceans 11 was that it was a heist film, I don't really think audiences were wrong in hoping for another heist film.

Also, great bad guy in the first one. In the second they target an old man who lives alone. Just not the same.

(Anonymous) 2021-02-14 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I have always had a soft spot for Ocean's 12. Gorgeous film and I LOVE setups that are basically a comedy of errors and this film did it so well. It all pays off at the end and IDK I still think it's a great film.

Haven't watched Ocean's 8 expect for the first 10 minutes. Thought it was a fun movie too from what I saw.

(Anonymous) 2021-02-14 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
My big problem with Ocean's 12 was that the entire plot felt like a misdirect for the audience. Basically, lots of private conversations between characters that seemed to be there only to trick the viewer, all adding up to the fact that none of the supposed stakes were real.

OP

(Anonymous) 2021-02-15 08:20 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with you, but I love "the audience is the mark" thief stuff. And I think a different marketing strategy would have set up the audience for it better. And I love the failed aspect of the trick heist.

(Anonymous) 2021-02-14 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I really wanted to like Ocean's 8 and there were things I enjoyed, but I think it's just hard to re-create what worked in Ocean's 11.

(Anonymous) 2021-02-15 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed. It might've helped if they'd put more effort into the casting. The whole team should've been greater than the sum of its parts, and it just wasn't.

(Anonymous) 2021-02-15 08:22 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'll agree there was a chemistry problem, but it was Oceans 13 quality to me.

(Anonymous) 2021-02-15 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
I liked Oceans 12. Not as good as 11,but still a fun movie. I wanted to like Oceans 8 and was really looking forward to it, but I don't think the whole cast had the same chemistry and the plot wasn't as good, IMO.