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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-01-19 05:04 pm

[ SECRET POST #745 ]


⌈ Secret Post #745 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 15 pages, 357 secrets from Secret Submission Post #107.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 6 (is ironic) 7 8 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - doing it wrong ], [ 1 - link to a random site ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: 105

(Anonymous) 2009-01-20 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly I think a lot of people who read/write that sort of thing in fandom very much more identify with the child than with the adult. Which I feel is a different thing from fantasizing about children as people you can get sexual gratification from.

When I was eight (possibly, younger, I honestly can't remember) I used to fantasize about adults doing stuff to people my age which would be classed as sexual abuse were it ever to be done in real life. I wasn't really aware of that at the time. I wasn't aware that what I was doing was masturbating or that it had anything to do with sex, at the time. But I do think it colours my perspective on this. I have a hard time accusing eight year old me of being a pedophile, and I gave up those fantasies when I discovered porn and started fantasizing about adults having sex with each other, so I don't consider myself a pedophile now, but if I were to remember being turned on as an eight year old, to revisit the idea of being vulnerable in that way, would that make me one? I don't feel like it would, because in my mind being a pedophile is wanting to abuse children, and I would be thinking about being abused.

It's not something I do, but I have rape fantasies sometimes, and I can see why some people might get something similar from child abuse fantasies. I would feel kind of hypocritical judging them for that, because in my mind it's the same thing I do sometimes, just one step more extreme.

But I can accept that I might be wrong in not condemning it. I'm absolutely not sure of myself here. I feel defensive around people who rage against anything that has even a hint of sexuality+children though. It's like there's no room for me to be unsure of my stance without being A TERRIBLE PERSON, which really just makes me sympathise more with the other perspective. :/

Re: 105

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2009-01-20 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I think it's an important distinction to make - who do you identify with here? I think fantasizing about rape in which you are the one being raped (or "raped," as seems common) is much different than getting off to somebody else being raped.

I think it's important to think about this stuff, not so that you can judge other people, but because I think that the path to real mental illness and serious sexual problems is a lack of self-awareness.