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⌈ Secret Post #745 ⌋

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And I'm not saying we should wipe slavery out of the history books, I'm saying we should accept it as part of the past and move beyond it already. Constantly bringing it up is just tearing open old wounds and dumping salt in them. Maybe if we all just agreed to leave the past in the past, people would stop justifying their hatred of one another with historical backing and the confederate flag could go back to being a symbol of cultural pride rather than an insult.

"Moving beyond it" can only be conducted properly after recognizing, evaluating and reflecting on it, in the way it deserves.

Which Japan didn't.

Then it was a poor analogy on somebody else's part.

And?

And I still don't think it has anything to do with Korea's protest.

Certain political groups in Korea got offended by the content of Hetalia. They petitioned to have it censored, and they succeeded. As far as I'm concerned, it's no different that the groups in America who try to censor things like To Kill a Mockingbird.

It is relevant because you apparently do not seem to understand why Koreans would be upset with Hetalia. I am saying that there is a valid reason rooted in history as to why Korea would be angry. Since it seems like a number of people here -- yourself included -- seem to be ignorant as to the bad blood between these two Asian nations, I figured I would compare it to the United States and its association with slavery. Of course, the US has acknowledged its own actions in a way that Japan hasn't. And I was simply saying that you should imagine how (understandably) upset African-Americans (and hell, it's not like it would be limited to them) would be if the US said, "Slavery? What? We had slaves? LOL get over it already!" Would anyone blame them for being angry? No? Well, that's how it is with Korea. That's why there continues to be a lot of bad blood between Korea and Japan.

For the record (and I really should have said this from the beginning) -- I am not one of the ones who wanted to see Hetalia canceled and I don't think it should have been. I just think that people are being willfully obtuse when they don't realize WHY Koreans would be offended.

I understand why they were offended, I understand the bad blood and, while I'm not well-versed as to the exact details of history, I understand the basic premise: Japan did wrong by Korea and hasn't even attempted to make up for it yet. The cultural tension and any offense taken is understandable.

I just don't think that their offense justifies their censorship efforts.

Not the earlier anon of this topic but LMAO SERIOUSLY? Because Hetalia, the story of moe interpretations of countries having totes hot buttsex, is EXACTLY the same as To Kill a Mockingbird, A timeless literary classic that deals with its topics (one of them racism, what with the accusal of rape by Tom Robinson,) with more tact and respect then Hetalia EVER could.

Think about this for a second.

The subjective quality of the work does not change the fact that censorship is censorship. "I may not like what you have to say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it."

And you don't believe in acting on what you believe in? I don't think Koreans would have bothered if it was some random Japanese person insulting Korea. But it's made into animation, and God knows how media can affect people these days.

Maybe it would have been noble of them if they cared to accuse of the general offensiveness of the comic first and put their "personal feelings" aside. But in case you forget, it's their country. Of course they are being self-centered; no one will care if they don't make that particular aspect into an issue.

Certain political groups?

As I understand the news reports, the call for Hetalia to be canceled was lead by certain nationalist groups within Korea itself.

Uh...y'know, that certain nationalist group comes into the equation after the petition.

Um, no it wasn't. Apparently you didn't understand what I was getting at. I was comparing the US's reaction to slavery to contrast it with Japan's reactions. Then we went off on a tangent about slavery apart from the comparison. But that was not the initial point of my comment.

Er...you're right. Sorry, I lost track of when the comment was made in all of the mess.

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