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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-02-28 01:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #5168 ]


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(Anonymous) 2021-02-28 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I... partially disagree.

They should have had Sam the Eagle give the disclaimer. I can't help but feel an opportunity was missed here.



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[personal profile] luxshine 2021-02-28 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
You are definitely not wrong.

I'd pay extra for that.

(Anonymous) 2021-02-28 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
yes, Yes, YESSSSSSSSS!!!
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[personal profile] bur 2021-02-28 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
YESSSSSSSSS

(Anonymous) 2021-03-01 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Missed a chance to make him their Legal Eagle.

I didn't realize how much I needed that until right now. Dang, OP. Dang!

(Anonymous) 2021-02-28 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
They do this for some of their 'classic' animated movies too! I agree that it's a good way to handle it.

I will say I couldn't always predict when they'd use the message. I binged pretty much all of those movies recently on Disney+. For some I was surprised, though it usually became clear once I saw the movie and I'd just forgotten that part. But for some I'd truly expected some kind of warning and there was none.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2021-02-28 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I know a bunch of people in the conservative sphere, and you're right about the over use of cancelling, but I've seen no-one talking about this. Not saying they're not, but conservative twitter might be quieter on this issue than you think...

So anyway... when happened to the muppets? Are they warning for DV? Miss Piggy needs to be stopped...

She's the Amber Heard of the muppet show.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-01 11:46 am (UTC)(link)
I saw quite a few conservatives complaining about the Muppets being 'cancelled' right before the whole potato head thing redirected their attention.

What happened was the Muppet Show finally arrived on Disney+, and a bunch of episodes have an unskippable 10 second warning in front saying they contain offensive material and are a product of their time and acknowledging that is better than trying to erase it etcetera etcetera. The mere /existence/ of that warning had a bunch of people up in arms crying 'CANCELLED' even though this was the exact opposite thing happening.
{Oh, and the things they are warning for are mostly just terrible ethnic stereotypes, and a few instances of confederate flags.)

(Anonymous) 2021-03-01 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm seeing it a *lot* from the conservatives on Twitter and Facebook, so we may follow different conservatives.

I've only seen a couple of the episodes with the warnings (it's 18 episodes, of the 118 on D+--one episode isn't being shown because of music rights, and another because the guest has been convicted of possessing child pornography) and they've been for overt racial stereotypes.

I feel like a lot of the Miss Piggy stuff was in the later seasons and post-Muppet Show. (But I'm only in S2 of my rewatch.)
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[personal profile] dantesspirit 2021-03-01 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't personally seen it either, but several friends have commented on seeing it in their feeds, as well as at least one had a person come in and throw a hissy fit over it on several posts before they got told to fuck off about it.

I think I'm rather glad it's not actually in any of my actual friends lists.

(Anonymous) 2021-02-28 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been sheltered by Tumblr's gay interpretations and memes of the muppets - I can't think of anything that could get them cancelled, but admittedly it's been a long time since I've watched the entire series.

(Anonymous) 2021-02-28 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Anon, are you me?
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2021-03-01 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
did I miss something? what was considered offensive on the Muppets?

(Anonymous) 2021-03-01 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
The original Muppet Show is from the 70s and there's several episodes that use ethnic stereotypes that are pretty widely accepted as offensive today, so those episode have a warning before them on Disney+.
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2021-03-01 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
I don't remember that at all.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-01 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
This skit, for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LAn_8JswfA

Or this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5dtfILU9S4

Not as bad as some of Disney's other stuff (Peter Pan just makes me cringe watching it now) but still, I see why they thought the warning was needed.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-01 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT - I love the Muppet Show, and over all, it tended towards the liberal end of the spectrum, but it was the 70s/early 80s. Just off the top of my head, there's the Peter Sellers g*psy bit and various "island savage" skits. Also, Johnny Cash sings "Ghostriders in the Sky" with a confederate flag behind him. Just sayin.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2021-03-01 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
has it bled over or has the idea of the public hating on public figures become useful to politicians to shield themselves from having to do their jobs? Disney is well aware of how to manage the public, so this option didn't surprise me. They had to do this with song of the south for years.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-01 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
Warner Bros and and Disney have handled this well as far as acknowledging rather than removing. It’s important to put these things into context so future generations can learn about why x happened and was shitty and we how we address it, as opposed to not knowing it ever existed and then accidentally re-inventing it through a Tiktok meme out of ignorance. “Those who don’t learn about history are doomed to repeat it,” etc.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-01 05:36 am (UTC)(link)
Huh. Miss Piggy used to look weird.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-01 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
THIS SO HARD.