[ SECRET POST #5172 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5172 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


01.
[Legend of Fei]



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02.
[Spaceballs]


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04.
[Mo Dao Zu Shi, Gideon the Ninth]


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05.
[Tales of Berseria]


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07.
[Berserk]


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08.
[Supernatural, Gabriel/Rowena]







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Comments

Re: Seth Jahn?

[(Anonymous)]

MORE INFO.

Jahn, a 38-year-old Florida man who represented the US at the 2015 Parapan American Games on the seven-a-side team, spoke for several minutes and used numerous racist, white supremacist talking points, and argued that peaceful protests "taint" the sacrifice made by military members.

Via the Associated Press:

“I’m sure I’m going to ruffle some feathers with what I’m about to say, especially given the athletes council that I’m on, but given the evolution of our quote unquote, progressive culture where everything offends everybody, those willing to take a knee our for anthem don’t care about defending half of our country and when they do so, then I don’t have too much concern in also exercising my First Amendment right,” Jahn said before the vote. “We’re here to get a different perspective. I also feel compelled to articulate that I’m of mixed race and representative of undoubtedly the most persecuted people in our country’s history, Native-Americans.”

Claiming he was citing FBI statistics, Jahn said “95% of deaths in black communities come at the hands of another black man.”

“I keep hearing how our country was founded on the backs of slaves, even though approximately only 8% of the entire population even owned slaves,” he said. “Every race in the history of mankind has been enslaved by another demographic at some point time. Blacks have been enslaved. Hispanics have been enslaved. Asians most recently in our country in the freaking 20th century, have been enslaved. Natives have been enslaved. Whites have been enslaved. Shoot, I lived in Africa for 2 1/2 years where I could purchase people, slaves, between the price of $300 and $800 per person, per head depending on their age, health and physicality.

“Where were the social justice warriors and the news journalists there to bring their ruminations to these these real atrocities? And yet in all of history, only one country has fought to abolish slavery, the United States of America, where nearly 400,000 men died to fight for the abolishment of slavery underneath the same stars and bars that our athletes take a knee for. Their sacrifice is tainted with every with every knee that touches the ground.”

Re: Seth Jahn?

[(Anonymous)]

Hm, well, it seems to me that the problem is less the facts per se and more the construction that he tries to put on them. For instance, talking about slavery in other places does not take away the scale, or the evil, of American slavery. And it's quite rich to talk about America fighting to free the slaves without talking about the fact that they were fighting against... other Americans - not to mention the various complex ways in which we've been impacted by, and not really reckoned with, the impact of slavery and racism. So, it's not a very good argument at all, in my opinion.

Re: Seth Jahn?

[(Anonymous)]

Fair enough. Although I do think his point about people's lack of interest in tackling continued slavery is pretty valid. Especially the ongoing incidents of sub-Saharan African slavery in the Middle East.

Re: Seth Jahn?

[(Anonymous)]

I think you can certainly argue that people should care more about it. But I think it's very unreasonable to position that as an argument against demands for social justice "at home".

Re: Seth Jahn?

[(Anonymous)]

That's very true. If he'd truly meant that as the focus of his speech it seems like it would have been better to not drag the kneeling issue into it, or to use fake statistics.

Re: Seth Jahn?

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, the context is what matters here. If this was a discussion about how many people pretend/believe white Americans (or white Europeans) were the only people to ever own or sell slaves or how slavery doesn't exist today anymore you could and should imo bring these points up. Do it while talking about it in the context of BLM and racism in the US though and it becomes a usually racist diversion tactic/whataboutism real quick.