[ SECRET POST #5180 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5180 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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06. [SPOILERS for Brand upon the Brain!]
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07. [SPOILERS for End Roll]
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08. [WARNING for probable discussion of sexual assault?]



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09. [WARNING for mention of sexual assault/rape]



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10. [WARNING for discussion of rape?]



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11. [WARNING for mention of sexual harassment]



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12. [WARNING for mention of domestic violence]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #741.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I follow both pro and anti shippers just to see both perspectives, after I was in the VLD fandom for over a year also interacting with both groups extensively because my ship wasn’t directly related. I largely see the proshippers saying fiction does not impact reality at all. Except when their ship could revolutionize mlm rep in children’s media. I’d love to see a more nuanced, reasonable approach from them, but I haven’t seen it. Maybe I’m just unlucky? I haven’t seen many nuanced approaches from anti shippers either, to be clear.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT.

I always love the irony of that 'fiction doesn't affect reality!... Until it matters to ME' which is what those arguments always boil down to on either side.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

That’s always very fascinating to see. This ship is fine because fiction doesn’t affect reality but also this ship should be canon because fiction does affect reality. And I absolutely see the same people making both arguments. Which is it then?

[(Anonymous)]

SA.

Ha right? It doesn't work both ways at all, either none of it matters or it does and the conversation is complicated as to how/why. But no, it only affects reality if they like it and if they don't, or don't care, then it doesn't.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

It must vary from fandom to fandom - I don't go to VLD, but I'm told that fandom is a bit of a wretched hive. All of the decent points I've seen from proshippers have been from a non-specific-fandom perspective.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Mostly what I've osmosed from Voltron fandom is that antis went rabid about "incest" and "pedophilia" over a ship between two young adults that isn't either of those things. It's where they really started getting completely absurd, and scary about it.

I'm not in that fandom but it was hard to miss anyway.

[(Anonymous)]

i will never not feel anything other than indescribable rage over all the

'it doesn't matter that adam died bc he was unimportant/it's JUST fiction/the REAL mlm rep is coming!!!'

vs

'omg sheith NEEDS to be canon for mlm everywhere bc rep is IMPORTANT'

i'm so happy they got spat in the face, i just wish a decent m/m ship had actually come out of that clusterfuck of a show. :\

[(Anonymous)]

I largely see the proshippers saying fiction does not impact reality at all.

You are very much not the only one. This is the take I see from the vast majority of pro-shippers as well. I take a YKINMKATIOK stance, but I do find the "fiction has NO impact on reality" stance a LOT of pro-shippers take to be dogmatic and off-putting in its own right.