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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-03-12 07:33 pm

[ SECRET POST #5180 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5180 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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06. [SPOILERS for Brand upon the Brain!]
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07. [SPOILERS for End Roll]
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08. [WARNING for probable discussion of sexual assault?]



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09. [WARNING for mention of sexual assault/rape]



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10. [WARNING for discussion of rape?]



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12. [WARNING for mention of domestic violence]



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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-13 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
This is exactly it. Antis like to say things like "Hey proshippers, if fiction doesn't affect reality, why did people become afraid of sharks after Jaws?!?!?!" And we shake our heads and say "Ah, the old and tired Jaws Effect argument yet again." We absolutely acknowledge that fiction can have an effect on how people behave, but there are a million other factors in play, such as the type of fiction (is it niche fanfic or a big budget film, for example) and popular attitudes in society prior to the fiction's existence. Fear of sharks was mainstream before Jaws, and Jaws played into that and heightened the fear, yet still not to the degree people think it did. Likewise, if popular media is criticized for having racist or sexist or homophobic stereotypes, proshippers will not disagree with the criticism because that can reinforce people's real prejudices.

What fiction won't do is make things like incest and pedophilia mainstream because the popular opinion is that those things are bad, and a fanfic where it's part of a ship dynamic isn't going to suddenly make someone think "Well, it happened in this fic and was fine, and now I'm just dying go have sex with my underage brother even though before reading this fic, the thought of doing so would have disgusted me if it had crossed my mind."

(Anonymous) 2021-03-13 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
+100

I know this gets trotted out a lot, but one of the most popular shows of the decade, and the most Emmy-awarded drama series of all time, featured not one but two incest ships between main characters. (And yes, it did romanticize them. They didn't end well, but they certainly got the beautiful-lighting, romantic-music treatment.)

Has there been a spike in incest? No? Then sit down and shut up, because AO3 user 69420Princess's Thorki fic isn't going to cause it either.