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⌈ Secret Post #5184 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

I guess I don't really see it?

[(Anonymous)]

I get a bad vibe from him. Idk.

[(Anonymous)]

In my corner of the internet there's a running joke that Ryan Murphy is a homophobic gay man, and honestly I'm not sure how much of a joke that is. :|

[(Anonymous)]

I don't see it tbh

[(Anonymous)]

You're absolutely right about it, and I'm shocked more people don't see that. Glee's a perfect example. Chock full of gays and POC but everything centered around a white-picket-fence monogamously-married-to-your-high-school-sweetheart conservative ideal. I get that they didn't want to get as messy as, for instance, Skins, but... idk, his work feels very whitewashed. You're right.

[(Anonymous)]

IDK. He wasn't the only one running that show, and the network interfered a lot. And queer people deserve the right to have a picket fence dream too. I loved that, actually, that Kurt and Blaine found each other in high school and got to go through all the stages of romance a teenage het couple would, but with the open support of their family and classmates in a safe, age appropriate way. Unlike what gay kids could usually expect to have to go through when I was their age in the 90s or any time before that. Which was: stay desperately closeted as long as humanly possible, at least until halfway through college or something, and spend a lot of time sneaking off to places underage people shouldn't go, learning about sex from adults who weren't always safe to be around, knowing you could get HIV or get killed...

[(Anonymous)]

I think the problem was... Everyone else got the same???

OP

[(Anonymous)]

yeah, it feels like he's crossed from depicting to advocating for traditional forms of society, idk how else to describe what I'm seeing. like he's trying to make the show as uncontroversial as possible or something.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel like all of his shows are trying to cross boundaries even if they end up insulting many different groups. IDK, it seems pretty bananas with him trying to represent all these different viewpoints in ways that aren't necessarily done well. I do like Lone Star though. Hokey and fun so far.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

hmm, I kinda feel like it's the opposite, like he knows he's crossing a lot of "middle america" boundaries with his characters so he's making the characters act as uncontroversial as possible.

maybe an example is that recently there was an episode on 911 Lone Star, where Paul's sister was mad at him for transitioning without like...considering how she was hurt? And then she implied that she didn't tell him she had MS because of it, so he'd know how she felt? They apologized to each other but, it felt very "after school story" in a way that wasn't fair to Paul as a trans man, but WAS very Disney.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

SA
Lol, I was half asleep when I wrote that comment nd forgot to say I it feels like someone told him to turn it way down compared to his other shows. I guess the point I was trying to make is that sometimes his attempts at representation aren't great. Like he's throwing darts at a board for a bunch of groups and missing a bunch of them.
I just started the second season, that sucks how they handled Paul's story. :/
I just want crazy storylines where there's a baby in a tree.

[(Anonymous)]

As a queer Christian type, who was a big fan of Glee, I mostly found his takes on religion baffling. So as far as anything being "Jesusy", he doesn't know enough to push an agenda.

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[(Anonymous)]

have you watched 911 tho? god is mentioned A LOT, at least once by someone every episode in both shows in a very "everyone around me absolutely has no problem with this" way.