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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-03-16 08:58 pm
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⌈ Secret Post #5184 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
You're assuming OP doesn't want to think of them as LBGT because they're villains. OP hasn't actually specified why they don't want certain characters associated with their sexuality. Maybe it's just their personal preference, and nothing to do with whether or not a character is evil or pure.

OP

(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
+1

The characters I was thinking of aren't even villains, just ones I find unbearably irritating and get pettily annoyed at people HC'ing them with my sexuality because I dislike them. But sure 'messy LGBT stories r bad' is the logical leap.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
Still gtaekeeping.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
Learn what gatekeeping means.

I'm not telling anyone what to do, I'm just thinkin' my own thoughts in my own head. Or is that a thought-crime now? Had the f!s (not)anti brigade decided that my own personal opinion is oppression? How terrible of me.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
DA but thanks for this, I'm tired of people throwing around the word "gatekeeping". I don't think you know what it means, anon.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 02:10 pm (UTC)(link)
"Sneer", "associate"... these words are the not the language of of non-judgment. You're just pulling back behind the "It's subjective!" excuse now because people are side-eying your secret so much.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 02:33 pm (UTC)(link)
da

OP never said they aren't judging. Judging in the mind is not oppression or gatekeeping.

OP

(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Where have I claimed I wasn't being judgemental? Of course I am, I'm not hiding that at all, I'm just not gatekepping because I am literally not telling anyone what to do, because that's what gatekeeping is you loopy doughnut.

Thinking something in my own head does not harm anyone else, unless you somehow think I'm capable of psychically transmitting that to everyone? Which honestly would be such a waste of telepathy as a superpower tbh.

nayrt

(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
mmm, loopy doughnuts. I miss those!

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Correction: a couple anons are side-eyeing the secret because they're reading way too much into it and imposing all of their pet peeves onto a secret that actually doesn't say anything about those pet peeves.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not gatekeeping to have preferences, you moron.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
agreed

(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

It was a simplification, admittedly. But I didn't necessarily mean to imply "villains" in that, I more meant like... people who you (using the royal "you" here) find personally repugnant, I guess? Are just as likely to be LGBT as anyone else. It's gatekeeping a nonexistent gate. How you personally feel about a person/character has literally no bearing on their sexuality, or yours for that matter. Like, imagine a straight person not wanting a character to also be straight because they didn't like them. That doesn't make any sense.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
+1000000

(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 12:22 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT but: Not really IMO. Considering there aren't many canon LGBT characters (in pop media at least) compared to het characters, naturally one would want to relate at least a little bit or feel at least a little bit that they are relatable, not the other way around. But I guess these kinds of reasons justify why OP says it is a secret anyway. Sometimes, there isn't a moral judgement to things. Sometimes it's just: I don't like it, period.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 02:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Just try it with anything else. "I don't like that character, why does she have to be Asian like me?"

(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 03:03 pm (UTC)(link)
... Sounds perfectly fine to me? Or, rather, for better wording: "I don't like that character so I wish people didn't see her as representative of Asian people because I am Asian and I am nothing like her".

(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 05:58 pm (UTC)(link)
+ 1

(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Considering there aren't many canon LGBT characters (in pop media at least) compared to het characters, naturally one would want to relate at least a little bit or feel at least a little bit that they are relatable, not the other way around.

Except that OP's secret specifically references fans' headcanons as the source of their irritation. LGBT canon characters are relatively rare, but LGBT interpretations of characters in fanfic and fanart absolutely aren't. (In fandom as a whole, anyway; there are obviously particular fandoms that are very cis het heavy.)

(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
I'm struggling to think of a situation that would make sense.
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