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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-03-16 08:58 pm

[ SECRET POST #5184 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5184 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 05:18 am (UTC)(link)
overall I enjoy the Watch books even though they're definitely failing to grapple with some of the fundamental problems of policing, but oh man BIG AGREE on being tired of people putting pratchett on a pedastal

the anti-intellectualism in his books is genuinely horrifying to me

(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 05:28 am (UTC)(link)
i've never read any of his stuff. can you elaborate on the anti-intellectualism?

(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 06:08 am (UTC)(link)
Huh, I never got anti-intellectualism from his work; it's hard to read Nation and come away thinking he hated scientific inquiry, for example.

I'm too tired to phrase this well, but I can sort of see where his skewering of institutional knowledge, distrust of authority by a lot of his characters, and the only commonly shown university being full of self-important whackjobs could come across as anti-intellectual, but Pratchett also had a lot to say about the uselessness and idiocy of things "everybody knows" and the "wisdom" of the mob. If he was anti-intellectual (I don't think he was exactly), he was also pro questioning assumptions.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 11:41 am (UTC)(link)
They're books, not philosophical treatise. Perhaps it's time both the idolizers of his work and the trumped up graduates of Tumblr University like you and OP both gave it a rest.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
do you understand what satire is? or literature? it's okay to think about things!

(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
It certainly is okay. That's not really what OP is doing though is it? Just complaining.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Philosophical treatises are also books

(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 02:30 pm (UTC)(link)
And it horrifies me how people confuse compassion for the less-educated (Nobby, Colon, various other significant characters) with anti-intellectualism. Seriously, where are you getting that? He fondly mocks the students at Unseen University but Stibbons is credited with various insights including the theory of evolution and he's equally mocking of the old boy's club of the administration. Various intelligent characters are lauded for their intelligence e.g. The Truth. It mocks the lowest common denominators of media, The News of the World type stuff. One of the most intelligent characters in the series is Vetenari and he's persistently shown as being a force of good for Ankh Morpork and the wider universe.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 03:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep. All of this.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-17 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I sure do love how you haven't replied to any of the people asking for clarification on that “anti-intellectualism” point.