[ SECRET POST #5192 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5192 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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02.
[The Irregulars]


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03.
[Pointless]


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04.
[Etrian Odyssey Untold 2]


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[Travel Man]


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06.
[CB Strike by Robert Galbraith]


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07.
[BNA: Brand New Animal]


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08.
[Raya and the Last Dragon]


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09.
[Misbehavin' Maidens (band)]











Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 23 secrets from Secret Submission Post #743.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I don’t know much about this particular example, but I generally feel the same about a lot of things. Plots and characters and settings are often (or at least have the potential to be) interesting enough on their own. Not everything has to have some kind of supernatural element to it. Lost, I’m looking at you. Sleepy Hollow, I’m looking at you. And so on...

[(Anonymous)]

I agree, and also, not every show needs to have an arc plot either

[sabotabby]

Hard same. Small stories are good too!

[(Anonymous)]

Lost, I'd agree with, although disaster survival series aren't my thing. Sleepy Hollow is an odd one, though. The original story is ambiguous but almost certainly mundane, yes. In adaptations, though, I'm not sure how good it would be to follow that. You could get a movie plot out of what is, essentially, an exceptionally cruel prank resulting in a disappearance. It'd fit right in with a lot of psychological/crime/horror movies out there. It just feels a bit flat, maybe? If you meant the TV series, though, without the supernatural elements it just plain wouldn't have a plot.

[(Anonymous)]

I meant the tv show and more specifically the time travel part.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm so with you!! I was really into Lost for the first bit...the whole survival community in action, the tension about resources, the community drawing together and making alliances, the "one of us is a criminal" thing. Wow, that had the potential of being a truly great show.

Then the smoke monster appeared and I lost every bit of interest and switched off.

[(Anonymous)]

Yep, I turned the TV off after the smoke monster and never watched another second of the show.

[(Anonymous)]

Even stuff that's supernatural doesn't have to go all the way to "saving the world." What about the small potatoes supernatural problems?

[(Anonymous)]

+100 monster of the week that's actually monster of the week

[(Anonymous)]

Both SPN and X-Files were so much better when they were just MTW formula.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

I love MTW shows, but I also don't mind a larger overarching plot -- as long as it doesn't become GLOBAL WORLD SAVING, why can't you just save the town? Why can't you just bring down something in your region? Or leave something insidious that doesn't get fully resolved because it is beyond the pay grade?

Anyway, i don't know if I've run into shows like that -- local issues.

[(Anonymous)]

This. I'd prefer Monster of the Week, a la X-Files. Not everything has to be life or death stakes for the world and human survival.

[(Anonymous)]

Everything has to be designed to be bingeable on Netflix now, whereas before, anything that wasn't a soap opera was designed to be kind of self contained, mostly one story per week, so they could run the episodes in any order later. They still had long plot arcs but...

Sometimes I don't *want* an intense non stop high stakes marathon.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree. Honestly, I just don't think modern film and TV writers are that skilled at character writing. Jump back even to the 90s and like the characters are so strong.

Now they're just poorly conceived and executed, and honestly I think most of their depth and potency arises from fandom building fanon around them.

[(Anonymous)]

Certainly many older shows had their own problems, but I sort of agree. Shows like ER, West Wing, and so on had to rely on good characters dialogue and plots in order to carry shorter, reality-based arcs, and they're still remembered as some of the best and most popular shows ever. On the other hand, some of the major supernatural or fantasy shows of today feel like...disposable flashes in the pan.

[(Anonymous)]

How would Sleepy Hollow even work without a supernatural element? Anyway, it definitely didn't need to be about saving the world!

[(Anonymous)]

To clarify, I meant a straighter adaptation, rather than the time travel bit.

[meadowphoenix]

No I did not want to watch police shenanigans from sleepy hollow, I was so glad there was a supernatural element.

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't want to watch time travelling Ichabod. Could easily have had a straighter adaptation without turning it into a present-day police show with a supernatural twist.

[meadowphoenix]

.....the source material is a ghost story, bb, without which there is no narrative and regarding which is the only memorable part of the story. how are you removing the supernatural aspect here in a way that a general audience will gaf about?

[(Anonymous)]

As I've clarified in other responses, bb, including the one you're responding to, I'm not objecting to all supernatural aspects in the story. I would have preferred a straighter (i.e. truer to the source material) adaptation, as the OP would regarding the show in the secret. My issue was with the time travel element that actually took away a lot of the originality and creativity of the source to instead give us what at least at first was basically another "female cop and male outsider team up to solve mysteries" show, which were everywhere at the time.

Of course, that ended up being the least of the problems with that shitshow of a production.

[meadowphoenix]

lmao, that's not so much a clarification as a completely different sentiment, but good on you for understanding what you originally said you wanted wouldn't have been interesting in the least, since you obviously know that this could have been a limited series about how Brom Bones terrorized an idiot played "straighter" even though that's got absolutely no tension.

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry, next time I'll be much clearer about my sentiments about every single, minor detail of my anonymous posts to a fandom site late at night my time. But good on you for understanding that not everyone agrees what would or would not be interesting entertainment.

Oh wait, you apparently don't understand that. Never mind.

[meadowphoenix]

Why are you talking about minor details? It's the main detail regarding the supernatural you changed. First you didn't want it, then you realized it was core to the source material, and you had to change your tune. Anyway, nobody was talking about what "everyone" needs, just you know, the general population a network makes a show for, who tend to like narrative. I'm not being obscure, dear, keep up.

[(Anonymous)]

Also unrelated to the secret topic, but this is the same problem I have with many Stephen King stories. He comes up with so many interesting premises and/or creepy scenarios - Shawshank Redemption and Misery are two of my all-time favorite movies, and I like to re-watch select scenes of the recent It movies, because the kids' interactions are so fun and they do a great job of hinting at the more realistic "coming of age" story elements. But more often than not, he takes his great ideas and completely ruins them with over the top supernatural horror. A serial killer that dresses like a clown and targets children, who decide to figure out the mystery because the adults in their lives are abusive, incompetent or both? Interesting. Creepy. Fun. An ancient shapeshifting alien monster returns every 27 years to suck the life force out of kids, and they beat it by bullying it to death (and I guess in the book...an underage orgy)? Gonna sprain something I'm rolling my eyes so hard.

I love some supernatural/sci-fi/fantasy productions. I'm not saying all are bad. I'm just saying real life can be interesting, scary, fun, emotional, whatever too. It just requires people to actually write characters and plots instead of just hand-waving over the important bits with supernatural "explanations".