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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-04-09 05:22 pm

[ SECRET POST #5208 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5208 ⌋

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[Shoot 'Em Up (resized)]


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[Banana Fish]


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05. [SPOILERS for Kids Baking Championship]



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06. [SPOILERS for Big Little Lies S2]
[WARNING for discussion of rape]



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07. [WARNING for discussion of suicide]

[ID: Invaded]


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09. [WARNING for discussion of noncon (probably?)]
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(Anonymous) 2021-04-09 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Me neither. They seem to say that because it's a big corporation propriety (Disney) and/or a superheroes tv show, it can't touch on heavy subjects with depth. I strongly disagree.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-09 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Okay that's the way I mostly interpreted it, and I was like, "Wait what?" just because it's a 'megacorp' or a non-real situation (ie superheros) doesn't mean you can't touch on real subjects.

I've seen similar complaints when collateral damage in blockbusters is 'brushed off' and the writers/etc are called callus and unrealistic so this seems like a can't win if you do/don't situation.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-09 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Obviously, they can touch on heavy subjects. They do so! I just think that they do a worse job at it. And that, on the whole, things are much less creative, personal and interesting coming out of that system.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-10 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you, and other people that agreed with OP, feel the way "Wandavision" dealt with the subject of grief wasn't creative or well-done (enough)? What did you think they did wrong precisely and how would you have changed that? I saw a youtube vid with a therapist analysing how the show handled the different stages of grief and she said that it was mostly on point, except for the depression stage that was brushed off too quickly. I'm also curious if this just the MCU (and DCU too, I'd guess) that are concerned or if you are dubious of comics's abilities to write creative, intelligent stories about nuanced/heavy/complex subject?

(Anonymous) 2021-04-10 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
DA

I don't think they can't, I just... strongly question the motives behind it. When it's a megacorp (and hell, in the case of Marvel, often helpfully funded by the US military), everything has that skunky flavor of "what will net us the most money/make people the most sympathetic to our characters (thus make us more money)?"

I'm sorry, maybe that's cynical, but I just don't trust megacorps to create anything with pure intent.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-10 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
If the intent doesn't make the show bad, then who gives a shit? If it's a good show, it's a good show. The fact that it's calculated only matters if that calculation leads to a bad show (or a show that perpetuates damaging social ideation).

(Anonymous) 2021-04-10 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
The issue here is precisely the fact that it makes the show bad. Next.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-10 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
To you. I makes the show bad to you. But news flash: you're not everybody. Next.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-10 08:14 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

Neither are you. There are plenty of people like you, but there are also plenty of people like AYRT.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-10 03:37 pm (UTC)(link)
While I sort of get what you're saying, individual published and aspiring to be published authors are mostly writing for money, even when they're also passionate about a project.

Until creative types are all paid a generous wage up front to create and share their work with the world, evaluating works based on the purity of their authors' intentions mostly comes across as saying artists who want to be paid for their work are somehow lesser, leaving hereditary million and billionaires pretty much the only authors capable of "purity." No thanks.