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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-04-16 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #5215 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5215 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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06. [SPOILERS for The Falcon and the Winter Soldier]



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07. [WARNING for discussion of child grooming]



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[personal profile] fscom 2021-04-16 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
07. [WARNING for discussion of child grooming]
https://i.imgur.com/6AQZKPb.jpeg

(Anonymous) 2021-04-16 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
So, I don't know this fandom, but as someone with a fandom that has several semi-immortal characters (most of the cast), it's a bit weird.

It gets more complicated when it comes to immortal or quasi-immortal characters, though, because theoretically, like, a lot of the world is like that? Or when aging's different because of what they are. Or maybe because there's so many in my fandom, I've found more ways to be cool with it.

But at the same time, if she's one of the only characters like that... yeah, I'd be weirded out.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-17 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know the canon for this secret specifically, but generally when it comes to this sort of thing I disagree. If the character is of legal age when they get together, if the character is enthusiastically consenting, and if their relationship is written as a healthy and loving one, then that's that on that.

I mean, reject the narrative if you want to. Dislike the narrative if you want to. Nope right the hell out if you want to. But yelling "She groomed him!" doesn't make it so. If the author wants to write it as healthy and loving, and proceeds to do so, then that's what it is. "But IRL it would probably be grooming!" does not change the fact that in this story it's not.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-17 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
+1000

News at 11, fiction can easily contain scenarios that would be very difficult to impossible in real life!

(Anonymous) 2021-04-17 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
Is this Gunnerkrigg Court? It looks like the same art style and lettering, but if so, the comic has clearly changed a lot since I stopped reading.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-17 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
So, did she actually groom him to be a sexual partner from a young age, or is this yet another "if they knew each other when one was a kid, it's automatically grooming even if the older partner never thought of the younger one in a sexual or romantic context until well after they were of age" situation?

(Anonymous) 2021-04-17 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
I could be misremembering, but I believe she sort of raised him? Like a caretaker? He may have had actual parents but she was a constant presence in his life since he was young, or at least that's heavily implied.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-17 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
Same.

Recently encountered this opinion myself in regards to a different story that featured an unaging character interacting with kids that would later become his love interest. The show kept making those childhood scenes to be about how romantic it was that the young kid was saying they wanted to marry the older character was, and the kisses, etc. But like nah, me and my friends were turned off. The relationship was perfectly fine beforehand, but turned creepy after.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-17 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
I agree on this one. I haven't liked Jones since this reveal was made. I'm glad Eglamore is in what looks like a healthy relationship with someone his own age (or at least the species equivalent).
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[personal profile] favoritebean 2021-04-17 07:36 am (UTC)(link)
I have seen quite a bit of chatter that theorizing that the current arc is setting Annie to become the next companion for Jones now that Elgamore has a partner.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-17 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
I'm really missing some context here.

Taking a picture? With someone he considers as a friend? How is that weird? Intergenerational friendships happen. How is someone going to learn to be an adult if they never... interact with actual adults?

I'm sorry, OP, maybe if I knew the story you're referring to I might understand your secret, but right now I just don't.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-17 05:15 am (UTC)(link)
Isn't *everybody* going to be young (and have been a child at some point) compared to an extremely long-lived or immortal character, once they age out of their own generation? Unless she was a parent figure or groomed him, I don't see the issue.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-18 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
...I never got the implication that their relationship was at all sexual. Just friends.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-18 06:20 am (UTC)(link)
There's no implication their relationship is at all sexual. The most we get is Jones kissing him on the cheek when he is an adult. Before that, she was a staff member at his school and was a friend to him. There's also no indication that any of her previous relationships have been at all sexual or even romantic, we've only seen her being friends with humans.

Idk, you're allowed to dislike the aspect of the character but this is a really inaccurate description of Jones