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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-04-16 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #5215 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5215 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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06. [SPOILERS for The Falcon and the Winter Soldier]



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07. [WARNING for discussion of child grooming]



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08. [WARNING for discussion of rape/sexual assault]



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(Anonymous) 2021-04-17 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
None of those things amounted to character conflicts in the actual narrative, if only because any emotional or ethical choice lasted a couple minutes at best. CW actually comes the closest to what I would have liked to see, because when Steve does waver ethically it's because of his emotional ties (i.e. Bucky would get professional help) but that's a 5 minute scene. At no point before does Steve even acknowledge there is a "maybe" to it (Tony is only using leverage because Steve is at "no"), and he certainly doesn't after. There is no ethical conflict in Winter Soldier. He doesn't like that he may have to hurt Bucky to save the world, he would much rather save both, but again there is no acknowledgment that there is a choice of which to prioritize, and he never implies that he would forgo striking at Hydra if it meant Bucky.

He had ethical conflicts in Avengers because he saw the weapons SHIELD had on the ship and it made him unsure of whether or not to work with them. Ultimately, he decided that he could work with them in spite of his unease.
He literally makes no choice about this. He doesn't decide, he is forced by circumstances (meaning at NO POINT do you think Steve is going to refuse to band together when there's actual trouble, that's just not a serious consideration). They all are forced, that's what's annoying about the movie.