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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-04-25 03:19 pm

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(Anonymous) 2021-04-25 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
It really is tiring, anon.

It depends on what genre/media you enjoy of course, but I can tell this happens often with certain genres I enjoy and it sucks.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-25 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
The thing that bugs me is that jealousy in male characters tends to more often be cast as a sexy thing than it is in female characters. I mean, definitely unhealthy in any case, but the double standard bugs me.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-25 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I know you shouldn't mix fiction and reality but if a man/woman is THAT jelaous IRL, that's a sign they're an abusive asshole in disguise, no really sexy at all.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-25 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
ngl but jealousy in RL is awful but I L-O-V-E it in fiction. It just pushes my buttons.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-25 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
It's annoying to me because I don't like jealousy at all but I do like a lot of allied tropes so I run into jealousy more than I'd like

NO jealousy ONLY sexual possessiveness

(Anonymous) 2021-04-25 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I LOVE jealousy as a trope, but I only love it when the jealous character doesn’t behave badly over it. I love the pining and the insecurity and the abandonment issues and the stoicism and the selflessness. I love when the jealous character is like, “Welp, this feels like it’s killing me, but if [other person] is what makes the person I love happy then damn it I’m going to be supportive.”

I love jealousy as this private, strangling thing a person grapples with in secret. When they start making their jealousy other people’s problem, it quickly becomes a trope I hate.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-25 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Thiiiiiiiiis.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-25 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah same, I'm all about it when it's a personal thing for a character and they deal/suffer with it on their own, plus I LOVE the 'I love them so much their happiness is more important than me being with them' type of story, but if it's a character taking their jealousy out on others, be it the LI or the 'rival, I will hate it.
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[personal profile] pantswarrior 2021-04-26 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Ohhh this. It's not so much a trope I *love*, but I am fine with it. And I love pining for whatever reason. :D

When they start acting nasty over it, though, I am so done with it.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-26 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
Y E S

(Anonymous) 2021-04-26 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
I mentally shelve this "insecurity" not "jealousy"

(Anonymous) 2021-04-26 08:03 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm. This is on of those "you do you" things, but think what's being described is definitely jealousy. Insecurity can definitely be an aspect of jealousy, but if the insecurity arises because "The person I want to be with might want to be with someone else," then it's jealousy at its core.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-26 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I think there's a distinction between, like, "the person I want to be with wants to be with someone else" and "I'm not good enough for the person I want"

It's definitely some grey areas in there though
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[personal profile] venusundae 2021-04-26 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
god, same. i do kinda like when the jealous person does actually slip up and say or do something stupid bc of it, but then gets put in their place for it. but only if it happens like. once. not as the entire plot for a longfic lmao. it's the internal turmoil that gets me w it tho, so the further internal turmoil after their fuck up? slay me w it

(Anonymous) 2021-04-26 08:26 am (UTC)(link)
For me it's super circumstantial. I can handle a little bit of dodgy jealous behavior, but it depends on exactly what it is, who's doing it, and what kind of relationship my ship has at the time.

Now that I think of it, there are different jealous behaviors I'm open to for every ship I have. What works for me and what doesn't is pretty ship-specific.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-26 01:29 pm (UTC)(link)
This! Yeah, someone being jealous in and of itself is fine-it's a common emotion, after all, so it's perfectly natural people will feel that way sometimes for some reason or another. It's how they deal with that feeling that matters. And if it's going to be explored in fiction, I agree with you, I much prefer this method of doing so. I much prefer the quieter angst that comes from this method over the crazy drama that can result with making one's jealousy other people's problem.

It's also much easier to be sympathetic to someone's jealousy if we can see the pain it's causing the person feeling that way, instead of watching them make others' lives hell in the process.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-25 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Watch older TV shows to see the opposite of this, anon.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2021-04-26 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
Which would you recommend? And how old? because even the Andy Griffith Show has so jealously tropes that are like this.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2021-04-26 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
I'm just a character analysis ho, because I love jealousy that does something for the characters involved. Do they descend into their worst selves? Is there something in their past or future that determines the flavor of this particular fear or anger? What about the object of the jealousy or the rival? What does it tell me about these characters, I need to know!

But I don't like it when it's jealousy tropes sprinkled on characters like so much literary debris.
Edited 2021-04-26 04:09 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2021-04-26 06:19 am (UTC)(link)
I hate female character jealousy more because female characters tend to be just as possessive but in a way where it's less obvious, because mind games and passive-aggressive implications that threats against talking to other women aren't seen as real problems. And women are usually portrayed as right to be jealous even when they act this way while men aren't. Even if the ways the man acts out his jealousy aren't treated as deal breakers, it's usually at least considered a bad thing that he was jealous in the first place.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-26 07:43 am (UTC)(link)
+1000