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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-04-28 05:27 pm

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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2021-04-28 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I went through TNG again last year and he actually didn't annoy me as much as I thought/expected. Like, sure I know there's a reason for the whole hate-train thing about his character but it just didn't bother me. I also really loved the quiet moments between the two characters in the episode where he has to shuttle Picard.

Anyway anon, don't let fandom convention get you down. Sounds like you have some good memories and sometimes people need to realise that it's ok for children to take something from a work of fiction that adults don't necessarily see.
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[personal profile] caecilia 2021-04-28 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
This is cute.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-28 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I never had any thoughts about him positive or negative tbh. He was just part of the crew to me and thus I had no issue with his character, but then I don't think I disliked any of the TNG characters, they were all part of the crew for me.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-28 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I was an adult when Wesley turned up, and it was a surprise to me that some people found him to be an annoyance. He's fine.

There are characters I don't like, but Wesley isn't one of them.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-28 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
This is my opinion on the matter.

Why waste time hating Wesley when characters like Reg Barclay, Lwaxana Troi and Ro Laren exist?

(Anonymous) 2021-04-28 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Ro Laren rules

(Anonymous) 2021-04-28 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait, wait, that Audrey Hepburn looking twink is Wesley Crusher?! As someone who has never been in the Trek fandom but has heard about Wesley Crusher, he is very much not what I pictured. Pretty sure I thought he was a grown man with a beard. That kid is adorable.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-28 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, Wil Wheaton is a grown man with a beard *now*...

(Anonymous) 2021-04-28 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Turns out I thought a character named Riker was Westley Crusher. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

(Anonymous) 2021-04-28 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
lmaooooooooooooo

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(Anonymous) 2021-04-28 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I liked Wesley except for when it was a "Wesley saves the ship" kind of episode. Those tended to be heavy handed even by TNG standards. Honestly, I think half the flack the character caught was due to how they dressed him. So many earth-toned jumpsuits...

(Anonymous) 2021-04-29 07:17 am (UTC)(link)
I think I read somewhere that script-writers had written a bunch of that kind of episode but it wasn't the intention that they would all be chosen for filming. But then there was a writer's strike and they needed scripts, and whoops! There's this big pile of Wesley-centric scripts...

(Anonymous) 2021-04-28 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG, same! I watched this show as a kid and he made me feel like I could fit in with my favorite characters. I haven't really watched the show as an adult, so I don't know if I'd still like him as much, but I could never hate him.
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[personal profile] pantswarrior 2021-04-28 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I never thought much about his presence one way or another until I saw all the fandom hate 10+ years after the show ended, hahah.

I do wonder if it had something to do with my age. When the show was airing I was younger than Wesley, I believe. So I probably didn't even catch on initially that he was "a kid character", he was just a character whose mom was also a character. Kinda wish I had, I probably would have had fun making up stories in my head like that too. =)

(Anonymous) 2021-04-28 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Awwwww

(Anonymous) 2021-04-29 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
I came to TNG late in the series but still as a kid, so my first Wesley-centric episode was... when he goes off to become a Traveler. And it bothered me so much from my point of view as a kid that when he gets the ability to stop time when he tries to save a dude during a fight and the Traveler reveals himself and is all “cool, evolving, let’s go, they’ll figure it out” that Wesley didn’t at least, like, nudge the guy over or put him behind cover or something before heading out and that was somehow evolved, that I think some annoyance retroactively colored the reruns I later saw.

But? It kept me from thinking he was “too perfect”. And I couldn’t hate him for saving the ship, everyone in the main cast gets to.

And now I’m living with someone who felt much like OP - if a kid could do that, so could he! So I think in the end it is a sweet way of seeing the character, and it still makes me happy that the cast genuinely appears to enjoy others’ company.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-29 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
I had a huge crusher on him when I was a kid. I was genuinely surprised to find out years later how many folks hated him.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-29 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
I think the group of people who hated Wesley were teenagers - we had fantasies of being cool and adult on a starship and Wesley just...dumped on that. Kids liked him, adults didn't mind him (except when he saved the ship every five minutes) but the teens of his own age? Hate all the way.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-29 09:16 am (UTC)(link)
I only occasionally watched the show when it first aired (loved the movies and tie-in books, though) so I never had much of an impression of him. I’ve watched part of the series now as an adult, and I just do not understand the hate. Compared to the kind of uselessness or obnoxiousness we see from a) other characters on that show (for example, Troi) and b) teens on shows today, he is so inoffensive. Even when I heard about it at the time, though, it always felt like some kind of pushback from gatekeeper-y “fans” about who is the right kind of person to be important characters on a starship, just like we see today.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-29 09:21 am (UTC)(link)
I still don't understand why he got so much hate. I always thought he was sweet too.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-29 03:47 pm (UTC)(link)
As a person, he's not so bad. Unfortunately his genius was too often a deus ex machina to fix problem of the week, overshadowing characters with decades of experience and training in the problem of the week.

But, he wasn't quite as bad as Barclay, whose status as smartest person on the ship justified a whole mess of broken rules and boundaries.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-29 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, and there's rumors that among the "creative differences" that got McFadden sidelined for second season was openly questioning why writers were treating Wesley/Will as more significant than Wesley/Beverly.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-29 12:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't outright hate the character so much as I was of an age that I could start to tell when I was being pandered to rather than actually respected and Wesley screamed that at me. And for me, the hyper-intelligent 'child' was covered by Data. But I didn't actually mind him.
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[personal profile] calystarose 2021-04-29 06:21 pm (UTC)(link)
me too, I was about the same age as he was at the time