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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-04-28 05:27 pm

[ SECRET POST #5227 ]


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(Anonymous) 2021-04-28 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think books have to have diverse casts, because they're someone's art, and people shouldn't be told how to make their art in order to fulfill a quota somewhere.

I view novels more like indie films than corporate entertainment. IMO, Marvel, for example, has something of a duty to be diverse with its offerings, because it is a product and major employer. Novels and indie films have smaller audiences (generally) and they don't pretend to represent everybody ever.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-28 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I think I agree with this. And I definitely agree with the first part. Novelists can write their novel however they want to, and it's fine. It's their fucking novel. Don't like it, don't read it.

That's not to say that lack of diversity in (most genres of) original fiction isn't an issue. But it's a systemic problem. An individual author isn't doing anything morally or ethically wrong by writing the story they want to write, even if their story is extremely non-diverse.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-28 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
"I don't really like the usage of the terminology 'POC' or saying 'Black Lives Matter' as if that wasn't obvious." "oh my God what are you you dirty racist."

"I don't think books have to have diverse casts, even though life is diverse." "Wow yes hot take gurll"

(Anonymous) 2021-04-28 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe the lives of the people in the books aren't diverse, though?

If you're writing about a New Hampshire farm kid in 1950, you're probably not going to have a racially diverse setting.

OTOH, if you're writing about a group of people in a US Army platoon in 2021 (or 1981) it would be completely oddball if everybody was white.

Then again, though cities are diverse, not every single group of (F)riends has a friend that's not white or not straight. Which reminds me that Happy Endings was a better show, IMO.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-29 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
Ok, but in cases like this book, where the author creates the world and creates the ethnicities within them, there's not really a setting reason not to have a diverse cast unless you create one. And then there's the question on why you created it a certain way

(Anonymous) 2021-04-29 12:14 pm (UTC)(link)
In which case they maybe shouldn't have used so many words, terms and names from a country which has mostly white and Eurasian people and then expect people to not picture, say, half the cast as black (because let's be real, "diverse" means black in Hollywood woke).

(Anonymous) 2021-04-29 12:15 pm (UTC)(link)
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2021-04-29 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Unless they are actually from indie publishers, there is 0 reason to believe that novels are less corporate than other entertainment. Size of audience isn't the primary measure of that lmao.