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fandomsecrets2009-01-31 05:08 pm
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[ SECRET POST #757 ]
⌈ Secret Post #757 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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Notes:
Secrets Left to Post: 21 pages, 525 secrets from Secret Submission Post #109.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 2 3 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - posted twice ], [ 1 2 - doing it wrong ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
Re: 166
(Anonymous) 2009-02-01 08:29 am (UTC)(link)A person certainly has the right to be apathetic (and yes, it is apathy, not caring about something other people care about is the definition of apathy), that's not exactly what the OP is doing. She's bitching because other people taking a stance is harshing her squee and forcing her to think about the real world when she'd rather be reading her gay porn.
Whether or not she's for or against the issue is irrelevant; she's complaining about having to hear about it at all, which is a really grievous case of her flaunting her privilege. If it doesn't affect her because she's straight, that doesn't mean it affects GLBT people any less. Not all fans are rabid, yaoi-loving fangirls; in fact, some of us are queer! Telling us to shut up because we can't separate fantasy from reality is really, really offensive, and the OP deserves to have this pointed out.
TL;DR, no one said she couldn't be apathetic about the issue, but complaining about other people having an opinion on it totally makes her a complete jerkwad and, yes, actually, a hypocrite- though perhaps not as much of a hypocrite as someone who vocally opposes gay marriage while fapping to doujinshi would be.
Overly wordy parenthetical because I can't seem to stop myself once I get started:
(Personally, I feel that not taking a stance on human rights and civil liberties issues, even ones that don't affect you directly, is intellectually lazy, morally suspect, and shows a marked lack of empathy. Claiming otherwise without lots of evidence isn't going to get you very far in this sort of argument.
Also I'm pretty sure gun ownership and marijuana use don't actually count as basic human rights; you said you weren't trying to equate all of those issues, but bringing those up makes it an apples to oranges sort of comparison. Unlike gay marriage and abortion, neither of those issues deal with denying a class of people certain rights- marriage and bodily autonomy, respectively.
And furthermore, if you're a woman and not infertile, choosing to take no stance on abortion because you don't intend to ever put yourself in a situation where you might want one seems a bit naive. If you aren't a fertile woman, ignore that. >.>)
Word.
Personally, I feel that not taking a stance on human rights and civil liberties issues, even ones that don't affect you directly, is intellectually lazy, morally suspect, and shows a marked lack of empathy.
Also this, pretty hard.
Re: 166
TL;DR, no one said she couldn't be apathetic about the issue, but complaining about other people having an opinion on it totally makes her a complete jerkwad.
Agreed. Yes, technically the fiction/reality line allows someone to be a 'hypocrite' on these issues. It also means others CAN care about said issues, and if you put yourself in a situation where you're likely to run into gay fans but you want to whine about how PEOPLE WANT ME TO CARE ABOUT YOU -- er, be prepared for an asspounding.