[ SECRET POST #5243 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5243 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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and then everything else was spoilers and cw stuff.



















02. [SPOILERS for Wolf 359 podcast - Season 3]



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03. [SPOILERS for Wandavision]



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04. [WARNING for discussion of sexual assault]



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05. [WARNING for discussion of sexual assault]



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06. [WARNING for discussion of pedophilia]




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07. [WARNING for discussion of pedophilia]



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08. [WARNING for discussion of pedophilia]



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09. [WARNING for discussion of abuse, gaslighting, self-harm]

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Notes:

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

03. [SPOILERS for Wandavision]
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[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I agree, I don't see how she'll be an Avenger or hero after this. I wasn't that attached to Wanda so I can't say her character's ruined for me, and I did enjoy the show, but what she did was awful. Grief doesn't excuse anything, and multiple times people begged her to stop or help and she didn't.

It was so weird they let her go with 'they'll never know what you sacrificed'. Wtf? She held a town hostage with a fantasy.

[sparklywalls]

I quite liked that this show tried to get into grief in a way the films perhaps don't have time to show, but at the same time was still uncomfortable with the fact a super-powered being (who we're narratively supposed to consider "good" so doesn't have the villainy excuse) was essentially imprisoning innocent people who just happened to be there living their regular lives in the wrong place.

I know the townsfolk gave her the stink eye at the end, but that was very unsatisfying for me tbh. "They'll never know what you sacrificed" rubbed me the wrong way too. The very least she could've done is let them go and make sure they didn't suffer any further. Hope that Doctor Strange 2 might address some of it but won't hold my breath. I'm very aware the MCU is already pretty shoddy when it comes to following through on some of the heavier implications of stuff.

[(Anonymous)]

She didn't know what she was doing to everyone. She stopped when she found out. I'm not going to argue for her beyond that. I don't think she was right, but I don't think she was wrong either. I just know she did exactly what I would have done if I had her powers. Except I would never have settled for accepting reality. I'd shut down the magic field, let everyone else go, but I'd put my body in some kind of stasis and my mind in a permanent daydream.

[(Anonymous)]

No she didn’t. Someone begged her to her face to stop and she didn’t.

[(Anonymous)]

DA - Before the finale?

Because for most of the season, it seemed like she wasn't even entirely aware she'd made the entire scenario. Then she seemed to be aware she was generating it, but didn't understand how what she was doing was torturing the townsfolk. From what I recall, Wanda didn't really understand how she was imprisoning and torturing everyone until right near the end when that one lady begged Wanda to give her daughter "a part" in the scenario.

What Wanda did was unquestionably horrible. And I did think the "they'll never understand what you gave up for them" line was rather the wrong narrative perspective to take on the whole situation. But she was half crazy, and I don't think she fully realized what she was doing until the end, at which point she stopped.

[(Anonymous)]

+1, what she did was horrible and wrong but she absolutely did not have full control of it or even conscious control for a lot of it. It's way more a "people need to learn about their powers in safe environment" (which would have saved a whoooooole lot of lives in Lagos) cautionary tale than "Wanda is evil and should be killed" cautionary tale.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, she still deals with grief better than 617 Wanda did, so there's that I guess?

[(Anonymous)]

>617 Wanda

She's from Boston?

[(Anonymous)]

It's a low bar, but she clears it.

[(Anonymous)]

i'll bet you're willing to forgive loki for knowingly doing the same thing to people and trying to kill millions while attempting to take over earth though, aren't you?

[(Anonymous)]

You do realize that Loki's the villain in that movie, right? Like, not a hero or an antihero, but flat out the bad guy who got compared to the Nazis onscreen?

[(Anonymous)]

This was my secret. I'm not a Loki fan, and in my mind he's a villain.

[(Anonymous)]

She was Hydra and sided with a homicidal robot... up to a point Ultton said he's going to kill everyone and not just other people Wanda doesn't care about.

[meadowphoenix]

I...kinda prefer her character here than in Ultron where her complex motivations of revenge and grief was either excused or feared. At least until they bbf Monica, it's clear she's harming innocent people. Marvel don't seem to understand how to deal with an anti-villain however (second-rate Cap is also not dealt with well), but marvel is full of them and anti-heroes so I think they better get good.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I think Marvel needs to stop making their heroes do dodgy things like that (or like their heroes covering up capital crimes for years in order to protect their besties) unless the writers are also willing to deal with the consequences. Because it smacks too much of the universe we already live in where people in power get away with murder, corruption, and fomenting insurrection without paying for it, so why should I want to watch that shit in my fantasies as well?

[(Anonymous)]

This. This isn't a case of "meant well, things went to shit," even. This is someone who imprisoned and tortured an entire small town.

And even the narrative of the show doesn't seem to think what she did was all that bad.

I really enjoyed WandaVision, but it's completely ruined MCU Wanda for me. Could that change? Possibly, but not unless the narrative explicitly treats what she did as being, quite honestly, evil.

(Watching WV and FATWS back to back is interesting, because you have one character being required to make amends for something they did while being a brainwashed, tortured, hostage, and one character being excused for... basically brainwashing and torturing a town full of hostages.)

[(Anonymous)]

No, no. Clearly Wanda is innocent of wrongdoing. She's a superhero. They hold themselves accountable for their own actions so you don't have to.