[ SECRET POST #5247 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5247 ⌋

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[sparklywalls]

I didn’t even know Rome was big enough still to have antis. Whenever I speak about it with anyone it turns out they loved it because, although yes a lot of the content is grim, it’s the fact it’s one of the closest efforts to representing the city of that time. I just know a lot of history lovers I guess and am lucky to not have encountered an anti.

[(Anonymous)]

Secret Scripter here: It's not that Rome specifically has antis, it's the anti position that dark/disturbing subject matter has to be handled in exactly the right way or else the whole project and everyone who worked on it or enjoyed it is vile. I don't think Rome is great because it had disturbing content specifically, but I do think that depicting the Romans/Ancient Roman Culture as something so foreign and violent and (to us) irredeemably evil is one of its strengths.

[(Anonymous)]

You saw it as irredeemably evil? That's... A take.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm assuming you haven't seen the show and are just concern trolling. So a quick run down (trigger warning for stuff that happens on Rome):
-Lucius Vorenus struggles with how he *must* kill a small child to preserve his manly honor.
-Titus Pullo, of the controversial Maybe We Don't Have To Murder A Baby Today stance, kills a slave man in a violent rage because the man had a loving relationship with the slave woman Titus adducted and fixated on.
-Attia of the Julia had a young woman raped and her family murdered because she found her daughter's friend annoying.
-Julius Caesar started (and continued despite Pompey's attempt at surrender) a war that killed tons of his own people for personal ambition. (HE REFUSES TO MEET ME!!)
-And every (named adult) character either owns slaves or is a slave and the vast majority of slaves are treated terribly.

Everything makes sense in context and (Except for Attia! I love her so much she's so awful and petty!) most people are doing their best, but if you don't see how their behavior and morals are awful by our standards I really don't know how to talk to you.

[sparklywalls]

Ah I get that anon.

Well, you'd hope anyone who wants a sanitised depiction of the ancient world would know to avoid watching it in the first place. Like most things along these lines, it wasn't 100% accurate but I like that the Went There that Rome could be a pretty violent place. I mean, Gladiator already kinda did that as well but that depiction of Rome (the city) was still Hollywood clean in many ways.

I admit I do have a problem with common narrative devices which are at pains to use history as a justification (such as a female character that the plot demands will be traumatised will almost always experience sexual violence to get to that trauma) but Rome is by far from alone with that one. I did find what happens to e.g. Servillia pretty hard to watch so I wasn't totally unaffected by the horrible things in Rome. And for that reason I don't assume that anyone who likes the show is evil! It was broadcast really late on the BBC for a reason.