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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-05-28 06:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #5257 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5257 ⌋

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[The Green Knight (2021)]


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(Anonymous) 2021-05-29 08:18 am (UTC)(link)
*eye roll*

Would you be even able to articulate what exactly is getting spoiled by Gawain being played by Dev Patel?

(Anonymous) 2021-05-29 08:36 am (UTC)(link)
He's not white.

(Anonymous) 2021-05-29 08:42 am (UTC)(link)
No shit, sherlock, but how exactly it changes anything? Tell us how it makes you ~feel~?

(Anonymous) 2021-05-29 09:23 am (UTC)(link)
Just as I don't believe white actors should be playing characters that are historical or mythological figures of other races, I don't believe other races should be playing characters or mythological figures that are white.

Greatly enjoyed Dev in Dickens, especially because Victorian London was undoubtedly a vast melting pot. I thought that was a great version. This is different because Arthurian legend is so old and deeply rooted in the ancient history of Britain, which was not diverse at all beyond a few outlier people.

(Anonymous) 2021-05-29 11:53 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT---bzzt, wrong! Especially as Arthur is post-Roman.

(Anonymous) 2021-05-29 01:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Most of the Romans left. And no, not wrong.

NYART

(Anonymous) 2021-05-29 01:08 pm (UTC)(link)
If actual history disagrees with you, then yeah, you are wrong. Just take the L already. This is just sad.

Re: NYART

(Anonymous) 2021-05-29 01:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Roman Britain was diverse. Post-Roman Britain was not. That's history.

Regurgitating facts about Roman Britain is not going to change the fact that Post-Roman Britain had a different make up, especially centuries after.

(Anonymous) 2021-05-29 12:10 pm (UTC)(link)
NA

I gotta ask - how do you feel about a white actor playing the green dude?

As far as I know, they've never gotten a green actor to play a green character. Not in Guardians of the Galaxy, not in Star Trek, not in The Incredible Hulk, not in The Wizard of Oz, nowhere. It just ain't right.

If that seems ridiculous to you, then think for a second why you're able to accept a green knight who gets his head cut off and is fine, but not a brown-skinned knight.

Just in case you'd like to know (from Wikipedia):
The urban population of Roman Britain was about 240,000 people at the end of the fourth century. Roman Britain's capital city, Londinium, is estimated to have had a population of about 60,000. Londinium was a diverse city, with inhabitants from across the Roman Empire, including natives of Britannia and Romans who were raised in continental Europe, the Middle East, and North Africa. There was also cultural diversity in other Roman-British towns, which were sustained by considerable colonial migration, both within Britannia and from other Roman territories, including North Africa, Roman Syria, the Eastern Mediterranean, and continental Europe.

(Anonymous) 2021-05-29 01:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Why are you talking about Roman Britain? I think you need to do some better research. Pretty much all the Romans left centuries before Arthur was supposed to happen. Jesus but Americans are morons.

(Anonymous) 2021-05-29 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Rome occupied Britain until the 5th century. King Arthur was a legendary British leader who, according to medieval histories and romances, led the defense of Britain against Saxon invaders in the late 5th and early 6th centuries.

Also, in the history of history, when has any occupying force left a country completely, not leaving anyone behind?

(Anonymous) 2021-05-29 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
As for the green skinned thing, that's ridiculous as there aren't any green skinned humans. Fucking ridiculous.

(Anonymous) 2021-05-29 01:16 pm (UTC)(link)
You're really that dense that you don't get what they were trying to say with the green skin analogy? Wow. You've never met a rake you didn't step on.

(Anonymous) 2021-05-29 01:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you really so dumb you don't get why it's a ridiculous analogy?

(Anonymous) 2021-05-29 01:39 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not though. It's pointing out exactly how stupid your insistence that fictional stories like Arthurian myths have to be historically accurate to the times race-wise, when other fiction doesn't have the same standards applied. Gawain wa never a real person, so he doesn't have to be white just because most people in Britain would have been in the time this fantasy was written.

(Anonymous) 2021-05-30 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
You know that there were specifically black knights in Arthurian literature as far back as Malory, right?