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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-02-06 04:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #763 ]


⌈ Secret Post #763 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Drake and Josh]


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[BSG]


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[Vampire Knight]


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[Demons]


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[Life]


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[Roswell]


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[Ga-Rei -Zero-]


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[Sailor Moon]


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[Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon]


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[Persona 4]


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[Ryan Ross; Panic! at the Disco]


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[Persona 4]


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[Bleach, Yoruichi]


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[Celtic Thunder]


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[Underworld Trilogy]


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[Ursula, the Little Mermaid]


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[Guiding Light]


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[CyberSix]


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[FT Island]


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[Big Fat Quiz of the Year]


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[Torchwood]


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[Runaways, Karolina/Xavin]


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[Simpsons, Rod and Todd]


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[Joe Loves Crappy Movies (webcomic), Twilight]


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[Utena]


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[Doctor Who/RPS/Russell T. Davies/Benjamin Cook]


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[The Munsters]


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[Adventures of Pete and Pete]


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[Jimi Hendrix/Janis Joplin]


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[Taylor Lautner; Twilight Movies]


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[FF13]


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[Nick Swardson]


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(Rachel Maddow, Susan Mikula, Keith Olbermann)


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[Earth: Final Conflict, Da'an]


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[Ouran, Persona 4]


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Re: 156

[identity profile] quadruplify.livejournal.com 2009-02-06 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll concede the point about RPS being like and better than gossip magazines. But I'd still say that if RPS and gossip magazines are pretty much similar, then they are both the cause and result of celebrity worship. RPS is perhaps just celebrity worship sublimated into something that doesn't take itself as seriously.

You're right, there are many sources of characterization to choose from when writing RPS. I'd just prefer to read stories where the writer has actually done a good amount of research.

I find that even if you write about background characters, there are always hints in the canon that you can pick up that probably aid in characterization, even if it's something as simple as, "This character really likes eating chocolate." Say you're writing about a child character who only gets a passing mention and that's it. Theoretically, one can still glean some characterization from, for example, the personalities of his/her parents (which tends to affect upbringing), the setting (where the child is growing up), etc. I don't see anything wrong with taking liberties with characterizing someone who gets no more than a brief mention, of course, but these hints need to be considered. I've found that many fic writers just turn these types of characters into Mary Sues. IMHO, if you really don't have enough info about a character, and you can't avoid turning him/her into a Mary Sue/self-insert, it might be a good idea not to write about him/her.

Re: 156

[identity profile] likespring.livejournal.com 2009-02-06 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
RPS is perhaps just celebrity worship sublimated into something that doesn't take itself as seriously.

That's probably the case for some fanfiction, yeah. But I don't think all of it qualifies. Just like with other fanfiction, people don't write only about those they think are perfect; they'll write about people who they like but frustrate them sometimes, people with whom they have a love/hate relationship, people who they don't particularly like as individuals at all but do like as part of a group, etc. I've seen a number of stories that are more of a character study of certain celebrities many people don't like. I don't think you categorize everything as "celebrity worship sublimated into something else" any more than you can categorize fictional-person fanfiction as series-worship or similar.

I'd just prefer to read stories where the writer has actually done a good amount of research.

Which is possible with RPS. :)

find that even if you write about background characters, there are always hints in the canon that you can pick up that probably aid in characterization, even if it's something as simple as, "This character really likes eating chocolate."

That's true, but you can't always.

Going back to my previous example from Harry Potter, Astoria Malfoy did not even appear in any previous books. She has one mention in the epilogue of the last book. We have no information on her parents, and while she has a sister, I don't believe we really receive any information on her sister other than her sister's House at Hogwarts. You can probably glean a few things from that information and who she marries, but other than that, you have nothing, literally. And you have no information that supports it being true -- it's all guessing. However, if you are writing about her husband (and son, if applicable), I don't see how you can get by without mentioning her and making a few guesses about her personality.

But when you take those liberties with a background character, which you say you don't see anything wrong with, I fail to see how that is more informed/researched than writing about a real person for whom you have a wealth of information.

Re: 156

[identity profile] quadruplify.livejournal.com 2009-02-06 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, you convinced me. I still won't read a lot of RPS if at all, just because there's I always get a bit of cognitive dissonance whenever I read a real person's name in something that's supposed to be fictional, and I'm just not a huge fan of AUs, but that's about all I can argue against it right now. Congrats. XD

(Sorry to have bothered you about this for so long; I was just curious as to what your arguments were.)

Re: 156

[identity profile] likespring.livejournal.com 2009-02-06 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
That I understand! There are plenty of fandoms, ships, etc., I can't read just because of small personal reasons.

(Sorry to have bothered you about this for so long; I was just curious as to what your arguments were.)

No worries -- it's been a while since I've had a discussion like that and I enjoy it. :)