[ SECRET POST #5266 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5266 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

I'm not convinced "neoliberal" actually has a definition other than "person I don't like." But there are leftists on Tumblr who're convinced "neoliberals" are something separate from leftists on Tumblr, and "we're going to save you by instituting outside authority to teach you morals" seems to match up with what they've been complaining about since they turned against the Iraq War.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

There is a general problem where all political terminology tends to collapse pretty quickly into meaninglessness. But "neoliberalism" has a pretty clear and straightforward ready-to-hand core definition that has to do with the center-right capitalist consensus on economic policy that developed over the 1980s and 1990s. Neoliberals believe in free markets and economic rationalization through market forces, they believe in globalization and free trade, they believe in financialization and privatization, and they believe in austerity and low levels of public welfare spending and paring back labor protections. There's a pretty consistent, coherent worldview and it all basically operates on the same central thesis: that exposing as much of society as possible to market discipline is the best way to economically optimize society and ultimately leads to the best results for everyone.

Also, there is a difference between neoliberals and leftists. Also I have no idea what Iraq has to do with any of this.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Well, neoliberals are separate from leftists because it's a centre-right philosophy.

Re: OP

[meadowphoenix]

the way it's generally used *gestures* online is negatively toward people who assert progress through capitalistic success. i.e. rich poc or rich lbgt folks or the people who think those people have Done Something by reaching financial pinnacles. MOST celebrities or other famous people do this, so this is a charge you can level against most people you don't like. This is incompatible with leftism, but a lot of leftists who are new to leftism still reach for economic success so.........i can see where it would get confusing.

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[(Anonymous)]

I mean, POC or LGBT folks who've become rich despite obstacles (through work, versus inheritance) HAVE done something?

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[meadowphoenix]

the context of this is political, which is about the class, not individuals. they've done something for themselves, which is irrelevant to this discussion. By simply getting rich, they've done ZERO for their people as a group, and often (I would say always but I'll make this concession since I think there are levels) made their riches on the backs of/exploiting their people as a class and other marginalized people, either directly through their money enterprises or indirectly, by letting their money enterprises lobby for policies which harm others but help them.

ETA: I should ALSO say, that the ability of an individual of a marginalized class to become rich and/or powerful is always a possibility even in those situations which would preclude for the majority of their class. You can see this throughout history in various places. While capitalists have a l w a y s said these individuals were proof of concept that capitalism isn't oppressive, leftist tend to see the opposite, that the exceptions prove the rule.