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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-06-20 02:29 pm

[ SECRET POST #5280 ]


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Re: What are some fandom things you just don't get?

(Anonymous) 2021-06-20 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't get the encouraged parasocial band relationships

I'm confused as how you see this as strictly a chinese/korean thing. Does no one remember NSYNC? BSB? NKOTB? One Direction?

Re: What are some fandom things you just don't get?

(Anonymous) 2021-06-20 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
But Korean (not sure if Chinese are the same way), have the social contract where singers are strictly controlled in ways where they can't even have boyfriends/girlfriends because it would take away their perceived availability by fans. Literally every part of their life in controlled to make them more appealing.

Sure, American boy bands have their image controlled but as far as I could tell, they could date freely, drink, etc.

Re: What are some fandom things you just don't get?

(Anonymous) 2021-06-20 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Western boygroups (and girlgroups) in the 90s and 2000s absolutely had the exact same restrictions on openly dating etc. to avoid "disappointing" fans etc. - that was always a huge part of the critcism of the genre.

Re: What are some fandom things you just don't get?

(Anonymous) 2021-06-20 07:44 pm (UTC)(link)
DA - No, they really didn't.

Re: What are some fandom things you just don't get?

(Anonymous) 2021-06-20 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes they absolutely did.

Re: What are some fandom things you just don't get?

(Anonymous) 2021-06-21 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
You're demonstrably incorrect, but okay.

Re: What are some fandom things you just don't get?

(Anonymous) 2021-06-21 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
"Demonstrably incorrect" about something that was a fact... sure.

Re: What are some fandom things you just don't get?

(Anonymous) 2021-06-21 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
It wasn't even remotely fact, you're just lying.

Re: What are some fandom things you just don't get?

(Anonymous) 2021-06-20 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
No they didn't. Hence why paparazzi would hound them and their dates.

Re: What are some fandom things you just don't get?

(Anonymous) 2021-06-20 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Different groups might have had different rules/contracts but there very much were several groups that weren't allowed to openly date or come out at the height of their popularity.

Re: What are some fandom things you just don't get?

(Anonymous) 2021-06-20 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Come out is very different than being able to date. That was just period typical homophobia.

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Re: What are some fandom things you just don't get?

[personal profile] nanslice 2021-06-21 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
Which groups? Because I was a teen in the 90s and I remember all kinds of dating scandals.

Re: What are some fandom things you just don't get?

(Anonymous) 2021-06-20 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Justin Timberlake and Britney Spears want to know what the hell you're talking about. Because there was no similar dating restriction, and that was absolutely not what any of the criticism of Western boybands was about.

Re: What are some fandom things you just don't get?

(Anonymous) 2021-06-21 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
I worked in the music industry in the 90s. They absolutely did not have restrictions like that. The level of image marketing stopped at, as the Simpsons made fun of, the bad boy/the hot one/the sad one personas.

Never mind that the fans didn't care if they were dating. I overheard fans in line for autographs literally discussing which already married members of the bands were going to marry them when they grew up. Shit's always been fucked up but let's not invent problems that weren't there.

Re: What are some fandom things you just don't get?

(Anonymous) 2021-06-20 07:23 pm (UTC)(link)
With the exception of 1D, the rest of those came into existence before social media which has made parasocialism way worse.

I can't speak to any comparisons beyond that though.