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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-06-23 06:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #5283 ]


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(Anonymous) 2021-06-23 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
When did people turn on LMM "like a vicious pack of wolves"? Did he get literally devoured alive? Did I miss something?

The reality is that no one on earth is ever going to be totally beyond criticism, and no one on earth ever should be beyond criticism. But I feel like the most reasonable thing to do in general is to judge things on the merit. Even if you disagree with the criticisms of LMM in this case, I don't see how you get from there to concluding that criticizing racism is bad in general, or whatever. I don't see how that's more reasonable.

(Anonymous) 2021-06-23 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Not literally obviously but yea the woke brigade definitely dogpiled on him.

(Anonymous) 2021-06-23 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, he basically left Twitter last summer - I forget the exact drama, but it was something with Hamilton instead of In the Heights. He used to be a lot more active and post personal stuff, but it's basically just promo now.

(Anonymous) 2021-06-23 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Twitter is a badly designed platform that promotes bad behavior because it results in higher views. So I do not think that we can attribute things like this solely or uniquely to 'wokeness'. And even if we could, I'm just not sure that LMM not posting on Twitter is enough of a harm to justify describing him as being devoured by a pack of wolves or say that we shouldn't care about criticism of this kind at all.

(Anonymous) 2021-06-23 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

No, he is being criticized for reasons he himself has even admitted he should be criticized for and plans to work on for future projects. Not every bout of criticism is a "dogpile."

(Anonymous) 2021-06-23 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Of course he’s going to say that if he hadn’t it would have gotten worse. Look what happened with Rita. You just have to shut up and take it.

(Anonymous) 2021-06-23 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
jeez - its things like this that reminds me why I'm never getting a twitter account.

(Anonymous) 2021-06-23 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's one thing to think that Twitter is made for promoting shit like dog piling and that sucks and its another thing to be like "all criticism of racism, including internalized and not very obvious racism is Too Far." Like, this WAS an issue that existed and a critique that was valid. The nature of the fogpiling on Twitter is something else, but he already left Twitter, so the most he had to do was field questions and reevaluate rather than go through that shitpile himself.