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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-06-26 05:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #5286 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5286 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2021-06-26 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel it could have gotten close to working if the guy had show any care or concern for the other two kidnapped women, or even a smidge of guilt? But he doesn't, his 'care' for the named lady comes off as purely boner-based than any kind of genuine concern for her, and she is into him because... honestly I have no fucking idea. He gave her bread once??? (The show tries to argue that he had no idea that the women were killed, but come one, he's been doing this for 20 years, he would know).

I can understand her saving his life as she seems like a kind person who wouldn't let her captors die, but after they get to the inn there was no reason for them to stick together or make it seem like it was an even vaguely hard choice. It was just so bizarre and I didn't care for it at all.

(Anonymous) 2021-06-26 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
but come one, he's been doing this for 20 years, he would know

Apparently they're teenagers in the books and it's essentially their first missions. That made a lot of sense to me once I heard that. In general I prefer the ages in the show (Kaz the leader of an established, if small, gang and club in his 20s versus a teenager) but it doesn't work for Matthias and Nina.

(Anonymous) 2021-06-27 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
The first time I watched this I was under the impression that this WAS Matthias's first mission and he was essentially kept on the boat to guard the captives. That kind of alleviated the issue for me, since he wasn't directly directly involved in the kidnappings.

But then the second time around I realized that HE was the guy who threw the rope-thing through the window that incapacitated Nina (she notices it when he chains her up) - so oof, he's been doing this for a while. Which kinda put the whole thing in a much darker and less appealing context.

And yeah, in the books they're at least a decade younger.

(Anonymous) 2021-06-27 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Just having guard duty for now would have worked.

I think they did try to show he was somewhat new at this, like when he's told to kill the captives if something goes wrong and Matthias protest they haven't had a trial yet, but it's definitely undercut by how practiced he is at grabbing Nina.

(Anonymous) 2021-06-27 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
And there was that other line from the Grisha who eventually finds Nina in which he knows Matthias by first/last name because he's apparently one of the BEST witch-hunters that his country has.

They just didn't think the implications of this subplot through.

(Anonymous) 2021-06-27 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, he seemed to genuinely believe that they had committed evil deeds but would have a fair trial, which is fine for a teenager on his first mission, but not for a 20-something actively engaged in the kidnapping part.

(Anonymous) 2021-06-27 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT.

Okay yeah that changes the context quite drastically. Being a young and misguided kid is very different to being a grown-ass adult who's clearly very experienced at capturing these women. I get the reasons for aging the characters up, and I'm largely for that with YA adaptations, but for this dude it worked against his story imo and I just could not see any reason why the lady would be into him at all.