[ SECRET POST #5296 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5296 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I hate arguments like that. Gross gender stuff is "inherent" to 99% of cultures around the world and every now and then cultures get the fuck over it. You could just as easily say "you can't write 'woman' without 'man' which shows how female subjugation is inherent to English language cultures".

[(Anonymous)]

welcome to f!s where being racist to asians and their cultures is 100% a-okay because a handful of c-dramas have gotten some fandom attention and this offends ppl for some reason.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes it's inherent in most cultures in the world. We're discussing China where that is also the case. It's not racist to point out China's very real gender issues, just because other countries around the world also have gender issues.

Incidentally, I love The Untamed and don't think it's any worse than any other C-drama for these issues.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe not racist, but definitely stupid to use words in the language as proof. The way thousands-of-years-old words are formed has fuckall to do with modern gender issues in any country, so using Chinese words to say "here's your proof of China's gender issues" is making a nonsequitur.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah like... there are plenty of words in every language that, if you take a close look at their etymology, would have ...unfortunate implications. It's just not as easy to see at first glance. You can criticise sexism in Chinese culture all you want but the characters are a really dumb argument.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

'Proof' lol. I'm sorry did you take my comment as a treatise or something rather than a few sentences I typed in a minute? Lolol

Proof. Give me a break. It's a nuance of Mandarin that made me go 'oh give me a break'. I don't actually need to prove anything. The gender issues in China are well known and well documented. It may not be the only country with those issues but that doesn't make the very real problems there disappear.

[(Anonymous)]

when china is repeatedly brought up here as some example of heinous sexism that knows no bounds... yeah, ya'll come off as suspect at best tbh. every culture everywhere has issues with sexism, because it's a shitty reality that most cultures are sexist, and this bleeds into the media made in that country.

it would be like me claiming that all of the united states are horribly sexist based off of the hallmark channel as a single point of data. which is ludicrous.

[(Anonymous)]

You're ridiculous. People don't need to post huge "BUT OF COURSE THIS APPLIES ALSO TO X, Y AND A-O" disclaimers if they criticize Ö.

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. They could have mentioned any actual gender issues in China as an example but chose to go with… this.