[ SECRET POST #771 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #771 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 19 pages, 458 secrets from Secret Submission Post #111.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 - too big ], [ 1 2 - repeat ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 - posted in one comment ], [ 1 - doing it wrong ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

re 151

[sxiz.livejournal.com]

iono, maybe it's because i'm so detached from people, but i really can not see the power dynamics argument; i can understand if the person is the easily coerced kind but then you have consent issues with everything.

besides, it's fiction, if author says 'he totally is 100% wanting it no issues here' then what's the problem?

Re: re 151

[ember-reignited.livejournal.com]

Think, for a second, about how much legal power a parent has over their minor child. Now think, for another second, about how desperately most kids want their parents to be happy with them. And about the opportunity parents have to mold their kids' worldviews from the time they're very young. And about how difficult it would be for a kid to remove themselves physically from their parent, if they live together (yes, I know this last one doesn't apply to the fandom in the secret, but bear with me). It's about as enormous of a power imbalance as you can possibly have.

besides, it's fiction, if author says 'he totally is 100% wanting it no issues here' then what's the problem?

For some people that just makes it worse, because of the implication that it can actually be that way. I sometimes like reading non-con, but the moment the story starts to veer into "But she totally enjoyed it, so that makes it okay!" territory, I get squicked and hit the back button. Fiction has power, you know. Think of how acceptance of homosexuality in fandom has shaped some fans' perceptions of it in real life.

Not that I'm saying that fans aren't allowed to like incest. I myself enjoy Dahlia/Iris art and fic, because they're both just so gorgeous and deliciously messed up. I just don't like the implication that automatically disliking incest pairings is as close-minded as automatically disliking slash, especially given the implications it has out here in the real world, where anti-gay scare tactics include conflating homosexuality and incest.

Re: re 151

[ember-reignited.livejournal.com]

Okay, so I just reread that and realized that I used the word "implication" way more times than necessary, including twice in one sentence. >_