[ SECRET POST #5313 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5313 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Good Omens]



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06. [SPOILERS for Black Widow]



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Comments

[fscom]

02. https://i.imgur.com/ImXAgaA.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

go too fast/moving too fast, in the concept of an interpersonal relationship, is almost always about romantic or sexual intimacy. It's not queer-exclusive, but when it's said between two perceived-as-same-gender people, it's queer as hell.

[(Anonymous)]

Meant for secret #1, I'm guessing :)

[(Anonymous)]

yup. oops.

[kallanda_lee]

I think that's just...applying hardcopy ownership mentality to a digital steaming service? You're not paying for each individual series, you're paying for an entertainment service.

It's more like if back in the day of video stores, you could rent unlimited amounts of films for 10 bucks a month. Which, even then, would have been a decent deal.But even there old films would get discarded, and new ones would be added to the catalogue.

If you prefer owning something, it's probably still better to buy a DVD or blu-ray box. But I find for me, I really don't need o own most stuff I just want to watch once.

[(Anonymous)]

I take your point but I think that moving to a model where increasing amounts of content is available exclusively on an entertainment service basis, where you're paying for subscription access, with no option to purchase a hard copy instead - that's an incredibly bad change from a consumer's point of view. Increasingly, things simply aren't available on DVD or Blu-Ray. You can't buy them in physical form even if you want to. That's really awful for consumers for a host of reasons and it's not a change that consumers have been given any choice in.

[(Anonymous)]

This. This is one reason of many why I have a hard time adjusting to streaming.

da

[(Anonymous)]

reasons why I'm snapping up dollar-bin dvds whenever I think of a movie I want to watch, search every service for it, and can't find it. up till a couple months ago, Beeteljuice wasn't available. We got a $5 dvd. Now it's available. for now.

The Drew Carey Show is still not available on dvd or streaming. It's not the only one. And that's a hugely bad take, you're right.

Re: da

[dantesspirit]

Yes

the 5.00/dvd bins are great for this sort of thing.

[(Anonymous)]

I see this is bad for consumers in some ways, but it's also less bad for the environment if we're not shipping DVDs all over the planet. I don't always like the fact that services do remove series and films as they rotate their offerings, but let's be real; unless you're in an active fandom for something or you have kids, how many times are DVDs actually rewatched? There's just so much entertainment to sample now. We used to spend so much money on movies in the 90s/early 2000s and I feel like it's a sunk cost and space-stealer to have all of these physical copies at this point. We easily have 300 DVDs.

I do think it should be easy to own digital items and keep them in the cloud or download them to a device/hard drive, though.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT--I only buy stuff I enjoy enough to rewatch; otherwise I get it from the library. And I'll put things I love on the background when I'm doing chores, or staying home sick, or just need cheering up. If dvds wore out from being played I would've ruined a few by now.

Also my internet sucks so I can't stream on my tv and while I have unlimited phone data, watching anything longer than a 30 second silly animal video on a phone screen sucks.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree. Growing up we used to record a lot of tv on VHS and we would actually re-watch stuff, but eventually we would move on to something else and then the format changed and all those shelves and shelves of tapes went in the trash.

I'm glad I never collected a bunch of DVD boxed sets because there's no way I'd be watching all of that.

I am a fan of DVDs/physical media not because i want to own things but because that means the library can make it available to me for free.

[(Anonymous)]

how many times are DVDs actually rewatched?

This is a weird thing for me to read, because...lots? Often? Rewatching "comfort" things or plugging in something you've already seen for "background noise" is incredibly common. You don't have to be in the fandom of something or a parent to want to watch a movie or TV series more than once.

[(Anonymous)]

Still better than before home media was even a thing, or when video existed but not everything had been released on VHS (and your local rental place might not have it even if it had been released).

[(Anonymous)]

Same. I want to actually physically own some things, not pay a fee indefinitely to “rent” them on a service that can disappear at any time. I WANT to support these things legally and financially. Give me the option to do so! But that’s also a big reason for them not to - getting people to dumbly pay whatever a month is far more lucrative than a one-time purchase, so I don’t see this changing anytime soon.

[dantesspirit]

This so much.

Some of us consumers are left out in the cold because we live in areas where the internet is literal crap that isn't good enough to even allow for streaming.

So we miss out on a lot by it being streaming exclusive, or a series suddenly going to streaming only after they get us hooked on season 1 (or so).

It'd be great to be able to buy physical copies of streaming shows, and it'd be yet another revenue stream for the production companies.

[(Anonymous)]

The OP pointed out the Disney+ shows are streaming only, and this is increasingly true. I can still usually find popular Netflix/Hulu/Prime series on physical media at my library (and buy then if I like them), but with more services leaving more and more of their material as streaming exclusives, it's probably going to be harder and harder to do that.

Which is really frustrating, because I really want The Clone Wars Season 7 on Blu-ray. And Resistance!

[(Anonymous)]

I don't pirate stuff but I do (or did, when live theatre was still a thing, sigh) occasionally make crappy audio bootlegs of shows. I never traded them or uploaded them anywhere, not that that changes it being illegal.

But if my internet wasn't so shitty I'd probably start pirating streaming-only shows I want to watch just to burn a physical copy. In fact, I think I'll ask a friend who pirates tons of stuff to get me copies.

I'll gladly pay for my own physical copy of something. But if it's not available otherwise I'm not paying.

Which reminds me; I need to buy a new computer so I can download Calibre and not lose my legit paid for ebooks on some tech bro's whim.

[(Anonymous)]

Not really relevant to OP’s point, but is the Disney+ catalog a rotating one? I know HBOMax is, and of course the other streaming services, but I haven’t heard anything about Disney taking anything off their service once it was added. Have I just missed it?

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I finally got to watch Treasure Planet this year, on Disney+. I checked back today and noticed the movie was no longer there. It's possible things glitched out but I'm not so sure this time.

[(Anonymous)]

Hmmm. I just checked and Treasure Planet is still showing up for me. So I don’t know?

[(Anonymous)]

I agree. I have no problem paying for subscriptions to access things I might only want to watch once, but if I want to own it (ie buy it to keep) and it's not available outside of a service that could arbitrarily take it away from me, I suddenly feel no guilt for downloading.

This is not equivalent to the olden days of 'rent 100 movies a month for $10, hdu download things!'. If I watch something I like in one of those 100 rentals I could go and buy the VHS or DVD. A lot of the times now I can't.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree completely and a hundred percent. I like having hard copies of crap and if I've paid for it already, I don't feel guilty about pirating a digital copy. This is worse but I also don't feel bad about downloading to watch once and delete. I think of it as like a library loan.

[meadowphoenix]

One, I actually think it's likely that disney will come out with their typical limited edition dvds for their shows. but they might not, and that's definitely a concern.

But I'm of two minds about this.

First I agree with your position that the increasing nature of limited ownership of media concerns me. if I'm going to spend a certain amount of money, I would like to own something. This is mostly my concern with music over tvs and movies since the amount of content you have access to is far more than you could pay for even with increasing streaming costs. Whether streaming is more like TV channels or movie distributors complicates this immensely. you wouldn't assume that you get to keep the movies played on channels or even on demand, but if there's no possibility of ownership later, that's actually quite shitty for cultural history and concreteness. I think there should at least be the possibility of buying and physically owning the digital media.

BUT. it's pretty clear that for some media, there wouldn't be a digital version AT ALL if these streaming sites did not have the ability to create the kind of exclusivity that justifies their expenses. Disney I don't count in this, they're just shit.

So I guess I just feel that even if physical copies of media are impeded with financial issues, the creators of some of this media should at least include digital copies as part of their model.

[(Anonymous)]

I think of streaming like a cinema ticket voucher - there's a lot to choose from, you watch it once, if it happens to be on again when you feel like watching it, that's great. (And paying for 2 streaming services monthly is about the same price as one movie ticket for me). If it's not at the cinema, then you pirate it. And streaming as first release means that you get a good copy straight up, not someone's wobbly cam!