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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-02-16 05:18 pm

[ SECRET POST #773 ]


⌈ Secret Post #773 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Re: 121

[identity profile] quadruplify.livejournal.com 2009-02-17 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
While many of us are socialized by school and our parents to ask questions like that when we screw up (I know I certainly was, anyway)when you're dealing with people who are your equals, who aren't your parents or your teachers or your friends, it can really send the wrong signals. You can come off like your putting the burden of making yourself a better person on other people, which is inconsiderate--it's not their job to fix you.

The thing is, sometimes a person who did something wrong may not know what s/he did wrong, and so is asking what it was. IMHO, I don't see anything wrong with this. And while I agree the burden of improving oneself should be on oneself, if someone doesn't know what went wrong, s/he has every right to find out what. Sometimes you can't improve yourself without input from other people, even people you've never met, you know? It might send the wrong signals, but continuous ridicule and mocking is hardly an appropriate response.

There's not a right answer. It's like if I complain about the way a female character is written, and someone else asks me how it OUGHT to be done... well.

Personally, no one should be asking you how something ought to be done in the first place -- if you don't like something, that's all there is to it, and other people should just live and let live. And sometimes, anyone asking that question is just looking for a confrontation anyway.

In some situations the best you can do is not be wrong.

There's nothing wrong with being wrong about something. The worst that can happen is someone comes along and changes your mind, and that's not a bad thing. Or perhaps getting mocked, but then again anyone who does that either doesn't have a logical response or doesn't know how to formulate one.

Re: 121

[identity profile] sarolynne.livejournal.com 2009-02-17 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
But there's a difference between asking "what did I do wrong?" and asking "how can I fix it?" If people are getting mad at you for asking what you did wrong, and you're respectful, and you have actually listened to the criticism, that's an entirely different issue from asking how to fix your problems.

I agree that input from other people is important, and if the criticism that the OP is receive is just being told that she's wrong, then asking why is appropriate. On the other hand, if she's being told that thing X that she did was wrong, then she's asking what she should have done instead, then she might be unintentionally shifting responsibility for fixing the problem, or at least seeming to. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear about that.

I also don't think that being wrong necessarily makes someone a bad person. We've all been wrong before. We'll all be wrong again. It doesn't necessarily reflect on us in a larger sense, particularly if we respond well to having the problem pointed out. However, I think the worst thing that happens if we're wrong isn't that we get mocked, it's that we hurt other people by being wrong.