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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-08-02 05:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #5323 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5323 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2021-08-02 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
So stay out of what you consider the OOC sections? I'm pretty sure they probably congregate together.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-02 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
bold, and inaccurate, of you to assume that

(Anonymous) 2021-08-03 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
Haha, apparently so from what I am reading below. I guess I assumed (apparently incorrectly) that people who are into AUs and people who are into hard-canon meta stuff don't end up on the same pages.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-03 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
Well, the thing is that it's entirely possible to have AUs that still follow the canon characterization/portrayal? Even modern AUs, because I've read some really good ones in some of my fandoms that still hit the same characterization beats as the original canon. The problem comes when people take "modern AU" as an excuse to turn the characters into what are essentially OCs divorced from any similarities to their canon selves. At that point, what you're writing is only an "AU" in the barest sense of the word, because it's basically just original fiction that was inspired by the original canon. And sometimes even "inspired" is a strong word to apply to it.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-02 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
This rather assumes the people who are writing these fics have a good grasp of what is and is not OOC. I'm not familiar with the Les Miserables fandom, but in general, I do not have the confidence you seem to have re: solid characterization.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-02 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, you can't. Not OP but you can't separate them out because they're everywhere. You can't filter out modern AUs on AO3 because half the people writing them don't think they're writing AUs. You can't filter them out in the tumblr tags because they outnumber the canon-based stuff dramatically. The people who are interested in canon sometimes manage to come together in little beseiged circles and have fun inside, and if you stick around for awhile you can usually find one that will welcome you, but that's about the best you can do. (And the one I was in finally fell under the constant attacks insisting it was cliquish and elitist for preferring canon setting and enjoying historical research...)

(OP if you aren't following pilferingapples on tumblr you should be. I thnk there's a couple good discords too but I'm in the loop enough anymore to be on them.)

OP here

(Anonymous) 2021-08-03 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I am following pilf, they're great! I've found a few fans of the actual novel to follow/mutual with, it's just that there are so few of us and so many people that I follow thinking they're actual canon fans who then start reblogging tons of modern au stuff without tagging it -.- one of the better ones left LM fandom for Downton Abbey a while back, and I'm pretty sure it was because of the exact thing I described in the secret

(Anonymous) 2021-08-03 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
This is my problem. I like AUs. Love them, even! ... when the characters are actually written to be in character. I don't like clicking on something that advertises itself as an AU only to discover that it's basically original fic with original characters who bear no resemblance to their canon selves.

I don't understand the point of writing something where, if you just changed the names, it wouldn't be identifiable as being fic at all. I'm in the fandom because I like the canon and the characters. What are these people in it for? Because it sure isn't the canon or the canon characters.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-03 02:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Different fandom, same problem.

An AU where we get to see who the canon characters would be if the canon events hadn't upended their lives? Could be fun!

An AU where a random group of people who share the names with the canon characters all work in a coffee shop? No thank you.

Please, authors, just tag your AUs!

(Anonymous) 2021-08-04 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
It's even worse in Les Mis because the canon characters are college students who spend all their time in coffeeshops. Canon is coffeeshops! Nothing makes me as irrationally angry as a Les Miserables fic tagged "AU - Coffeeshop" or "AU - College/University". The coffeeshop or college is not why your OOC modern fluff is AU! And if you think that then you have not paid any attention to canon ever!!