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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-08-07 03:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #5328 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5328 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2021-08-07 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, it's half-and-half. As another anon noted, it seemed Terry Pratchett was the one who did the bulk of the writing, and on another, Neil Gaiman confessed in his blog that Terry Pratchett used to be a very angry person in life, and he worried there were moments in which their friendship could've ended the moment he said the wrong thing.

Me and a friend of mine have a sci fi universe we love to write together, both on storyline and worldbuilding, but God knows we butt heads on some stuff, sometimes even turning into heated arguments. Think Rocko's Modern Life's scene when Heffer and Philburt screaming at eachother while editing the pilot of the in-universe show Wacky Delly.

However, we acknowledge our strengths and weaknesses: I'm the better writer and know my stuff with real-life history, but he's a master at keeping track of the lore and designing alien species and spotting sci fi clichés that only weaken the story. But that is something that took a lot of time writing together.

That, and me learning that every artist needs another artist to tell them "stop," and that art stops being yours when you share it with someone else. Even if that someone else is your audience.

I think it's a matter of letting go? I understand well the wish to be protective of your art, since you nourished it and worked hard on it and it's disheartening to see it change too much. But just as well, it's also about acknowledging that art chooses what it wants to be, and realizing and accepting your own weakness, so you can collaborate.

After all, there are studios that shine not because of a single genius or even having "the best people." But because these people know how to work together.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-08 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
>b>"As another anon noted, it seemed Terry Pratchett was the one who did the bulk of the writing... "

That anon was incorrect.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-08 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
" Neil Gaiman confessed in his blog that Terry Pratchett used to be a very angry person in life, and he worried there were moments in which their friendship could've ended the moment he said the wrong thing."

Source, please?

ayrt

(Anonymous) 2021-08-08 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
I was mistaken with the previous claim, but I definitely have a source for this one:

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/sep/24/terry-pratchett-angry-not-jolly-neil-gaiman

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2021-08-08 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT I thought this was common knowledge.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2021-08-08 06:08 pm (UTC)(link)
That's rather taking what Gaiman said out of context. Claiming Gaiman said he was "worried there were moments in which their friendship could've ended the moment he said the wrong thing" makes Pratchett sound like he was a ticking time bomb and everyone had to walk on eggshells around him or'd blow up randomly if you asked him to pass the salt. Pratchett wasn't a freakish ragemonster, he had a righteous rage to him that drove his writing:

"There is a fury to Terry Pratchett’s writing: it’s the fury that was the engine that powered Discworld. It’s also the anger at the headmaster who would decide that six-year-old Terry Pratchett would never be smart enough for the 11-plus; anger at pompous critics, and at those who think serious is the opposite of funny; anger at his early American publishers who could not bring his books out successfully.

The anger is always there, an engine that drives. By the time Terry learned he had a rare, early onset form of Alzheimer’s, the targets of his fury changed: he was angry with his brain and his genetics and, more than these, furious at a country that would not permit him (or others in a similarly intolerable situation) to choose the manner and the time of their passing.

And that anger, it seems to me, is about Terry’s underlying sense of what is fair and what is not. It is that sense of fairness that underlies Terry’s work and his writing, and it’s what drove him from school to journalism to the press office of the SouthWestern Electricity Board to the position of being one of the best-loved and bestselling writers in the world."


In the article you cited re: being afraid that something he'd say might end the friendship, Gaiman is talking about one specific incident in which he wisely decides not to pull an "I told you so" on Pratchett when they're both dealing with the consequences of Pratchett's honest mistake that turned out to be a mini disaster.