[ SECRET POST #3543 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5343 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

Who are these people? A musical group? YouTubers?

[(Anonymous)]

Up and coming musical group from YouTube with a heavy Tumblr/Twitter following from the "youths"? Idk. This is my first time hearing of this group (legit thought it was part of the seven wives of the Henry 8 play)

[(Anonymous)]

Henry VIII had six wives tho?

[(Anonymous)]

You're not incorrect, as several of the members did perform in the "Six" musical.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know who this is so I'm have not seen the incidents you're referring to but if you don't know why wearing a qipao is deemed insensitive in most cases than I don't quite believe that all the incidents were blown out of proportion.

[(Anonymous)]

Qipaos were standard street-and-day-wear, we're not talking a religious habit or a wedding outfit or some other kind of dedicated clothing. So no, I don't know why someone would consider a qipao insensitive. (On its own merits, that is. There may be some other context to the particular situation you're talking about.)

[(Anonymous)]

From what I have heard from multiple Chinese women is that the reason that qipaos in Western depictions are generally (not always) insensitive is how they have been co-opted as The exotic sexy dress. Many depictions of Asian women (granted this has changed recently) were almost exclusively either the temptress assassin or as a prostitute. Both depictions portrayed them as overly sexual and explicitly foreign in Western popular culture. And for both, they would half the time be stuffed into a qipao regardless of their actual ethnicity.
And let's not pretend we've never seen some weeb wearing a qipao to be sexy. I remember them selling them in kiosks in the mall and it was always a young white woman buying them to look cool, exotic, and sexy not to just wear around for a regular day.
So some actual Chinese women are still generally skeptical of people of non-Chinese descent wearing qipaos as just a regular dress rather than as a sexy assassin costume.

[(Anonymous)]

So the slutty, 'Hallowe'en' version is what you're talking about? That's fair. *No-one* likes the slutty Hallowe-en version of their stuff...

Qipao. Are. For. Everyone.

[raspberryrain]

I will say this over and over again. It's just a dress, it's not some sacred Chinese-only thing.

Qipao are for everyone.

Re: Qipao. Are. For. Everyone.

[(Anonymous)]

Same with Kimono. I mean, the name literally means "thing to wear".
But yeah, the people complaining are rarely from the Asian country these clothes belong to anyway.

Re: Qipao. Are. For. Everyone.

[(Anonymous)]

Literally one of the first things my host family did when I was an exchange student in Japan was dress me up in a kimono and take me to a shrine for pictures, so whenever I see people trying to claim that Japanese people don't like foreigners wearing kimono, it just makes me laugh.

Re: Qipao. Are. For. Everyone.

[(Anonymous)]

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Same! And one family from the exchange even bought their exchange student a kimono as a gift to take home. 15 yo me was very jealous of that.

Re: Qipao. Are. For. Everyone.

[(Anonymous)]

Above-thread anon has a point. People in China and Japan are happy to share their clothes with foreigners because they're not marginalized for how they look or dress in their own countries. But nobody talks about how Westerners of Chinese and Japanese descent feel.

Re: Qipao. Are. For. Everyone.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean yes, sure and there absolutely are instances where those things are not okay (see: all the slutty costume versions) but it's still disproportionately non-Asian people who complain about regular clothes being worn in a regular way. (And also only when white people do it, there tends to be radio silence when other POC appropriate traditional Asian dress.)

Re: Qipao. Are. For. Everyone.

[(Anonymous)]

Not singling you out specifically, because I do think you’re coming from a good place. But there is nothing wrong with wearing non-ceremonial clothing from another culture. The very small minority of Asian Americans who have issues with it are generally working through issues over how they relate to their own ethnic heritage that are bleeding over into how other people relate to it. Anons above and below you are right that it is almost always white people who try to claim otherwise, which is not surprising considering that the argument originally came from people whose response to “quit using our sacred objects/practices as party games” was “well then I guess we can’t eat tacos or sushi anymore either or we’ll be arrested by the PC police!” It has been so frustrating to see racist counterarguments be embraced by people who mean well and don’t know any better. But think about it. If a white person can walk into Chinatown and buy a qipao from multiple clothing stores with no argument , wearing the qipao is probably not the culturally fraught issue that you think it is.