[ SECRET POST #5355 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5355 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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03. https://i.imgur.com/Wgi9JyJ.jpg
[linked for illustrated/implied child nudity? nonsexual/nothing shows, just in case]



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[Lucifer Within Us]


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06. [WARNING for discussion of sexual abuse]

















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #766.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[feotakahari]

Yesterday, I compared them to TERFs. The anon who I was talking to thought that was overblown, but I do think there’s something to it. TERFs have this worldview that’s sort of demon-haunted. The enemy lurks in every shadow and must be constantly pointed out to prevent them from subverting all you hold dear. I’ve seen antis go the same way.

[(Anonymous)]

I think that's a pretty solid comparison, TBH. In both cases it all stems from (what they believe to be) a legitimate concern, blown up out of all proportion until even unrelated and/or innocent things become twisted into so-called proof of the perceived evil thing.

(which, it hopefully goes without saying, was never there in the first place.)

[(Anonymous)]

Also both obsessed with having an enemy at all times to point their swords at, and being perfectly happy to hunt one down or make one up if there isn't a suitable canditate around at the time.

[(Anonymous)]

I am the anon of the dr jekyll and mr hyde secret the other day, and while I still don't have any comment on the TERF and transpeople comparison, I really think that proshippers are also obsessed with pwning the concept of antis on the internet in the same way that I feel matches up with how your post imagines antis do. I still don't think that proshippers get a pass for that, and I really feel that it's the same culture war nonsense that is supposedly really bad for 'antis' but perfectly fine for proshippers.

It's all dumb and obsessive posturing pots calling kettles black, but luckily outliers are rare in terms of actual harm caused besides the mental wear of slap fights. It's just modern day shipwars dressed in the most social justice terms to express outrage, character defame, and show how evil the opponent is.

[feotakahari]

“I really think that proshippers are also obsessed with pwning the concept of antis on the internet in the same way that I feel matches up with how your post imagines antis do.”

You’re not wrong about the “pwning” part, but “I’m going to look for randos on the Internet and complain about how bad their takes are” is different from “I’m gonna look for randos on the Internet and report them to child abuse hotlines.”

[(Anonymous)]

This right here.

The fact that they are willing to waste the time of people who are investigating actual child abuse just to score points in a shipwar is completely bananas.

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't seen child abuse hotline report harassment calls, but funny that you mention it, because I was actually bombarded with rude anons and the occasional death threat for a while because I mentioned "please don't submit underage ships to me because I personally am not comfortable with that". Apparently my own personal preferences on my own blog was enough to be called Stalin over.

I'm just going to assume that if anything bad happens, it's an outlier and not representative of an entire group of people. Or perhaps it's not an outlier, and my own experience is valid. I just wish that it was taken seriously, but this is the internet and preferences in fics must be treated with life or death importance.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I think the problem with your points here is that you have a serious hate-on for proshippers -- understandable, given your experience -- but consistently refuse to acknowledge the harm done by antis.

This thread wasn't about proshippers at all, but you brought them into it nonetheless, without even bothering to acknowledge the problematic elements of antis that the thread was actually about in the first place.

It just comes off as defending one group while vilifying the other, and ultimately, while both groups certainly have their harmful elements, as others in this thread have pointed out one is infinitely more harmful as a whole than the other.

[(Anonymous)]

^^^

[(Anonymous)]

Yep. I also think the constant obsession with calling people pedophiles is linked to some of the same fears that lead people to conspiracy theories like QAnon. And I think it's dangerous because it's conditioning young people to be in a constant state of unjustified reactive fear (and also obscuring the real warning signs for the real thing)