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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-09-03 05:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #5355 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5355 ⌋

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[personal profile] feotakahari 2021-09-03 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I’ve seen campaigns that were definitely about the power. There was this one guy in the MLP fandom who nobody paid attention to, and then he led a campaign against “sexist” fic and could prompt harassment against anyone he didn’t like, and then everyone got bored and he was left impotently trying to get someone to listen again. But I’ve also seen folks who really seem to think they’re surrounded by dangerous sexual predators in disguise.

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I wish I could believe that, because at least then I'd be able to find some empathy. Feeling helpless is kind of the default in the world right now, and finding an outlet for frustration and anger would at least be kind of understandable.

Unfortunately, the arguments I've seen pointing out the correlation between anti rhetoric and the loss of understanding of 'fiction vs. reality' just seems way more logical. It's in the same category as the kind of parasocial relationships you see more and more between fans and their fave celebs, where a 'like' on Instagram or whatever somehow equals "we're BFFs now".

I'd love to think antis are just lashing out at imaginary boogeymen to make themselves feel more in control of their lives or whatever... but honestly, I just think they really, genuinely believe that writing two teenagers having sex in fanfic is the exact same thing as real-life CSA.

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(Anonymous) 2021-09-03 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I saw an interesting theory that young women use being an "anti" as a socially acceptable way to Mean Girl others. It's "not nice" to make fun of people for things like their clothes or body or things they can't help. And it's sort of become socially unacceptable in fandom to mock people too much for not being good writers/artists (or even to give con crit that could be interpreted as too harsh if unasked for)...but you CAN pick on them if everyone agrees they're doing something Morally Unacceptable.

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(Anonymous) 2021-09-03 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I honestly just think this is just a problem that has it's roots in IRL social problems, specifically the IRL social problem of changing your mind on an issue. Like it's super rare to see a random stranger on the internet say "actually, here's a more nuanced take on a previous opinion I had, there were some issues I'd like to address and give a clarification of." You might see that from friends, but I'd imagine it'd be done in private with you, not on a public stage. On the public stage of the internet when people get questioned even slightly difficultly, people tend to dig their heels in and feel like they have to defend themselves.

Idk, I just only share my opinions with friends for this reason.

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(Anonymous) 2021-09-03 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
idk back when my anxiety and depression were at its worst i would seek out people saying shit i know i'd get angry at and then argue because, as cliche as it sounds, it was the only way i'd feel some energy

there's probably loads of reasons why people do it. some people might feel that internet crusades are the only way they can assert some control over a world that feels deeply hostile and fandom where (roughly) everyone is in your weight class. some people might have unresolved trauma and just get triggered. some people see "pedophile" and don't read further because it's so ingrained in our society that that is the most heinous shit imaginable
idk

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I don't know.

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I feel like it's perceived moral superiority, a culture that seems to encourage and reward moral outrage, and entitlement. Which seems like a familiar recipe.

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(Anonymous) 2021-09-04 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
Idk if it's just anger or a desire to hurt people or just regular cruelty but I agree that it takes this form because we've made so many strides on other bullying topics.

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Lol is she new? Do she know how many books are out there with the same title?

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(Anonymous) 2021-09-04 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
I just can't unconditionally support authors. My favorite YA author was involved in harassing a fellow creative very publicly on Twitter years back and I haven't been able to even look at her books since.

At least Tomi Adeyemi's public embarrassment was so stupid that it would have been entertaining if she hadn't unleashed her supporters on Nora Roberts.

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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2021-09-04 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
You know Cozy Werewolf Author and I had a conversation where she said many many authors really think they have something in the copyright sphere, so I honestly think it's a mixture of publicity and misguided righteousness has sort permeated social media so much so that it's now an actual social habit/atmosphere.

Also....how do I put this. People with social media clout have the truly odd tendency to believe that that's the only clout that matters anymore (because they know that their social media clout is what gained them their book deals in the first place), so they can ~call out~ those people in their industry without social media clout. However, NOTHING has supplanted personal connections as power and unless we never meet in person again, I have doubts that anything actually will.

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How did she think she would be able to take on La Nora and not be politely, classily taken to the cleaners?

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[personal profile] fscom 2021-09-03 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
03. https://i.imgur.com/Wgi9JyJ.jpg
[linked for illustrated/implied child nudity? nonsexual/nothing shows, just in case]

(Anonymous) 2021-09-03 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Well I just lived my Dead Dove moment today.

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(Anonymous) 2021-09-03 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I TRULY live for the way the fandom wholesale rejected his revealed name LMAO

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I like Noah better than John.

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(Anonymous) 2021-09-03 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll have to try that one. I love Ace Attorney and have been on the lookout for similar games.

What do you dislike about the moral choices? I'm interested in detective games and have a few in my backlog but haven't tried any so far.

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What fandom and characters are these, please?

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If OP or anyone else knows, I'd appreciate the info, thank you.

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[personal profile] fscom 2021-09-03 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
NS, NF, etc.

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Tell us all about your Friday here!

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