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⌈ Secret Post #780 ⌋

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[Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure]

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[ShakespeaRetold; The Taming of the Shrew]

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[Bones]

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[Torchwood]

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[Skins, Freddie]

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[resized]

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[Nintendo Power, Nester comic]

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[the lonely island, jorma/andy]

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[Are You Afraid of the Dark?]

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[Bill Hicks]

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[Dollhouse]

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[Dr. Horrible]

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[Merlin]

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[Pride and Prejudice]

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[Roger Bart]

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[Demon Knight]

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[Candy]

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[Knights of the Old Republic]

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[Dr. Who]

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[Rockers]

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[Soul Eater]

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[Scrap Heaven]

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[Avatar]

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[Erin Kelly, Loving Annabelle]

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[Joe Biden]

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[Bleach]

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Not every single slash fic is about "teh hawt ghey sex!" Personally speaking, I prefer stories that don't focus on "teh sex" because I ship people based on their interaction and dynamic and seeing that play out in different scenarios in fic is interesting to me.

I know that; I've enjoyed slash fic at times, and I know I've enjoyed femslash written by men. I don't agree with the generalization the OP is making. It's the "it's not for you, you have no right to be bothered by it" attitude that I find really bothersome.

I don't think the attitude really is "it's not for you, you have no right to be bothered by it," as much as that it isn't supposed to be realistic. There isn't a reason to get offended over it. At least it seems like yaoi/slash writers care enough about the characters to make them human, even if they mess up at making them always act male. And honestly? Not all yaoi/slash makes one of the characters act like a girl (especially if it's fanfiction and the character doesn't act like that in canon.) Not all yaoi/slash has an obvious seme and an uke. And honestly? The better ones don't. I'm more into slash fic than original yaoi, and I can say that 99% of the time, a good fic is going to keep the characters' canon personalities when they deal with each other.

Saying "gay men don't act like that!!!" at every slashfic in the history of ever is not so much "defending your sexuality" as stereotyping gay people. Not everyone who's gay has a certain personality or certain mannerisms- yeah, it's probably accurate to say that giving a gay couple the power dynamics of a het couple is inaccurate, but most good slash writers don't do that. I write femslash, and if people talked about keeping your girls acting believably like girls, that would sound sexist- so why is it made that big of a deal if our boys are acting masculine all the time?

Also, yeah, I've met gay guys that liked slash and yaoi- the availability of those materials is what helped some of them realize they were attracted to men in the first place. So yeah.

.....I love you. Whoever you are.

Just THIS. Completely.

Well, who has the right to be bothered by anyone's sexuality... gay or straight?

Plenty of gay men fetishize straight guys. Something wrong with that?
Plenty of dyed-in-the-wool lesbians jerk off to yaoi. Is this a problem?

You should recognize that sexuality is not something that straight people appropriate at the expense of gay people, nor vice versa. It's not a zero sum game.

Can people APPROPRIATE sexuality, anyway? Isn't what they feel something that comes from inside of them? Sexual desires can be complex and contradictory. Being "straight" doesn't exclude someone from being queer... just ask a transsexual. I think the bigger problem is not that straight people are "taking advantage" of queer people with their sexual fantasies... the problem is when straight people refuse to accept that this just might make them a tiny bit queer themselves.

Very good point, I was just focusing on the erotic aspect of it. I personally write slash for the character dynamics and occasional messing around with cultural stuff, I've never made it up to actual porn.

I've only written more porny stuff twice, and it's a challenge 'cause even then you're focusing not on the hot but on whether this is what that character would do or think and what not...

I'm just too shy to personally write it, I think. <_<

Lol, that's why I've only written two stories. I just can't 'cause it feels like I'm intruding.

I can handle it in RP when I'm only writing for one character, can't seem to handle two or more. I am strange that way.

Maybe you feel more comfortable writing that one character, in general, than you do writing both of them?

Possibly. With some pairings I can get into the head of one character better than the other -- in writing, I usually just do things from their perspective.

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