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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-02-23 05:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #780 ]


⌈ Secret Post #780 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

101.
[Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure]


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[ShakespeaRetold; The Taming of the Shrew]


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114.
[Bones]


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118.
[Torchwood]


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119.
[Skins, Freddie]


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[resized]


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122.
[Nintendo Power, Nester comic]


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124.
[the lonely island, jorma/andy]


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125.
[Are You Afraid of the Dark?]


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130.
[Bill Hicks]


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131.
[Dollhouse]


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132.
[Dr. Horrible]


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[Merlin]


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134.
[Pride and Prejudice]


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[Roger Bart]


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[Demon Knight]


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144.
[Candy]


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145.
[Knights of the Old Republic]


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[Dr. Who]


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151.
[Rockers]


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152.
[Soul Eater]


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153.
[Scrap Heaven]


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155.
[Avatar]


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[Erin Kelly, Loving Annabelle]


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159.
[Joe Biden]


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[Bleach]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 13 pages, 320 secrets from Secret Submission Post #112.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - doing it wrong ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: 127

[identity profile] hector-rashbaum.livejournal.com 2009-02-24 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
I'm of a similar mind - extremely conflicted because there's a lot about slash that bothers me, a lot about fandom cultural norms...but a lot I see benefit in, and overall the idea of shutting down slash/fan culture bothers me far more than the issues I have with it.

I'm not sure I can agree with this, however:

It's just not possible, because women as a group don't have the power to oppress gay men.

I'm wary of sounding like I'm comparing privileges here, and if it sounds like I'm saying "[x] has it worse than [y] so [x] takes precedence, dammit", smack me.

One thing that leaves me conflicted about slash is the culture it resides in, where homosexuality is constantly broken down into that which benefits straight people, and is thus acceptable, and that which does not and should be done away with. Pseudo-lesbian male-gaze porn is the most obvious example of this; but there's also the increasingly common representation of gay man as woman's best friend, where there is value for [stereotypical heterosexual] women in the fashion sense all gay men *obviously* possess, and the insight they provide into the male psyche, without the worry of a sexual relationship to complicate things. There is no value in the Gay BFF's actual homosexual behavior, though, and that is rarely paid any mind.

Straight female objectification/fetishization of gay men certainly doesn't have the same cultural impact as straight male fetishization/objectification of lesbians, but I think it goes a little far to say there is none.